# Names of Jesus Bible Study --- ## Background - Some notes that got all this started - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2016.05.07.0909]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.06.12.0945_NOJ]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.0842]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] - An early attempt at the study: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.1007_Early_Attempt]] - This is a summary of the various notes on John 1.18 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_John_1_1-18__Summary]] - Thoughts on why I changed everything to "Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study": [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664823660]] - --- ## Questions - What are the various names of Jesus? - --- ## Takeaways - There are some key notes on extra Biblical stuff at the end of this --- ## To Do - Skipped - Luke 1.1-8.56 - Complete - Mark ??? 1.1-16.20 - Luke 9 --- ## Notes --- - [[Genesis_01#The Sixth Day#|Genesis 1.26-27]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2022.05.04.0857]] - Names - [[Not_Applicable_(NOJ)]] - [[P_2023.01.03]] --- - [[Exodus_03|Exodus 3.14]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOG_2022.05.04.0959]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOG_2022.05.04.0959]] - Names - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - [[P_2023.01.04]] --- - [[Deuteronomy_06|Deuteronomy 6.4]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2021.07.12.1105]] - Names - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Psalm_045|Psalm 45]] - Date - {6-7} - Daily Post --- - [[Psalm_082|Psalm 82]] - 2022.10.04 {6} - There are no "names of Jesus" in this passage. However, Jesus quoted it in **John 10.34** and applied it to Himself. At that passage, I recorded that Jesus is NOT called God based on His logic. - Notes - Names - [[Not_Applicable_(NOJ)]] {6} --- - [[Isaiah_09|Isaiah 9]] - 2023.03.30 - It just occurred to me that even though the **verse 6** says Jesus will be called "Everlasting Father", it doesn't say that He IS The Father God. In one respect, there have been billions of "everlasting fathers" - 2022.10.04 - Perhaps, a way of looking at the OT examples of Jesus being called God is Jesus' explanation in [[JOhn_10|John 10.33-38]]. - 2021.12.24 - There are several names associated with an entity in **verse 6**. Most people connect these with Jesus. The names are: - Wonderful Counselor - Mighty God - Everlasting Father - Prince of Peace - Most people believe this passage refers to Jesus. Assuming that is true, then Jesus is “el” [[H0410]] - At some point in the past, I changed the focus of this study based on what I had learned up to that point. - My premise is that Jesus’ NT moniker is not “God”. The moniker “God” is reserved for the Father - On the other hand, this passage is an example of Jesus “being God” in the OT sense - NOJ - [[Wonderful_Counselor_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Mighty_God_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Everlasting_Father_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Prince_of_Peace_(NOJ)]] {6} --- - [[Isaiah_11|Isaiah 11.2]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664815121]] - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Isaiah_53|Isaiah 53]] - Date: - Multiple verses / comments --- - [[Zechariah_14|Zechariah 14.9]] - Notes: {9} - Names: - SS Notes - I need to study this passage - I think this is talking about Jesus - All the major translations say “Lord”. The Hebrew is [[H3068]] --- - [[Matthew_01|Matthew 1]] - 2023.05.04 {1-17} - Matthew started off his book with Jesus' genealogy, in particular being the son of Abraham and the son of David {1} - Matthew continues to refer to Jesus as "Christ" {16 & 17} - 2023.05.04 {18-25} - Again, Jesus Christ {18} - Matthew quotes a passage from Isaiah 7.14 calling Jesus "Immanuel". Matthew then adds a parenthetical statement, "which means 'God with us'". It is interesting that there are several notes in the BSB saying that Immanuel means "God with us." However, other than the parenthetical statement from Matthew, that definition isn't anywhere else in scripture. {23} - NOJ - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Son_of_Abraham_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {16} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {18} - [[Immanuel_(NOJ)]] {23} - [[God_With_Us_(NOJ)]] {23} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.05.05_Matt_1.1_17]] - [[P_2023.05.06_Matt_1.18-19]] - [[P_2023.05.07_Matt_1.22-23]] --- - [[Matthew_02|Matthew 2]] - 2023.05.04 {1-12} - The Magi referred to Jesus as "King of the Jews"{2} - Herod referred to Jesus as "the Christ" {4} - 2023.05.04 {13-15} - Matthew quoted Hosea 11.1, where the prophet quoted God referring to Jesus as "My Son" {15} - 2023.05.04 {19-23} - Matthew quoted an unnamed prophet saying about Jesus “He will be called a Nazarene.” {23} - NOJ - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {2} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {4} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {15} - [[Nazarene_(NOJ)]] {23} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.05.08_Matt_2.1-6]] - [[P_2023.05.09_Matt_2.13-15]] - [[P_2023.05.10_Matt_2.19-23]] --- - [[Matthew_03|Matthew 3]] - 2023.05.05 {13-17} - Context: Jesus' baptism - When Jesus came up out of the water {16-17} - He (Jesus) saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him (Jesus) - A voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!” - Most people (including me) say this is a good example of the "trinity" {16-17} - However, somehow a lot of people use this passage to "prove" Jesus is called God. I don't see it! - Some observations about the scene: - It's probable that Matthew was NOT an eye witness to this scene - Matthew doesn't say that he was present - Matthew had not yet been called as a disciple - Matthew was an outcast since he was a tax collector - However, Luke {**Luke 3.12**} says that "tax collectors" came to be baptized. So, it is possible Matthew was one of them - Matthew refers to the Holy Spirit as the "Spirit of God". - Jesus was in the water - A voice from heave talked about Jesus and referred to Him as his "beloved Son" - It would seem that Matthew is connecting "God" with the voice from heaven rather than Jesus in the water - Since the voice from heaven referred to Jesus as 'My beloved Son' it seems reasonable to assume the voice is from God the Father - In light of my observations, I think this is a good passage to conclude that Jesus is NOT called God but rather the Son of God - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {16-17} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {17} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.05.11_Matt_3.13-17]] - Jesus is NOT called God (NOJ) - Son of God (NOJ) --- - [[Matthew_04|Matthew 4]] - 2023.05.05 {1-11} - Context: The temptation of Jesus - In two of the three temptations, Satan asked / tempted Jesus by saying "if You are the Son of God ..." - On one hand, we know Satan is a liar and everything he says is a lie. So, drawing any conclusion based on something he says is not advisable - On the other hand, if Jesus was NOT the Son of God, Satan's temptation wouldn't be much of a temptation - Based on other passages, I think it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus is in fact the "Son of God" {3, 6} - In all three temptations, Jesus' responded with scripture and in each of the three responses, He included a reference to "God". I've written this before in this study, but it just seems strange to me for Jesus to talk about "God" in third person if He (Jesus) should be called God. {4, 7, 10} - NOJ - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {4} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {10} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.05.12_Matthew_4.1-4]] - Son_of_God_(NOJ) {3} - Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ) {4} - [[P_2023.05.13_Matt_4.5-7]] - Son_of_God_(NOJ) {6} - Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ) {7} - [[P_2023.05.14_Matt_4.8-11]] - Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ) {10} --- - [[Matthew_05|Matthew 5]] - 2023.05.10 {14-16} - In Jesus' teaching, He refers to "your Father ([[G3962]]) in heaven ([[G3772]])" {16} - Although I don't currently see any connection between that statement and this study, I thought it was interesting - 2023.05.09 {8} - There are two verses in the beatitudes that make it difficult for Jesus to be called God; verses 8 & 9. - Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. {8} - Either Jesus is saying that no one is "pure in heart" and therefore no one will see God (which of course is true) or He (Jesus) is referring exclusively to His Father - Obviously, the people being taught were looking at Jesus when He was teaching. So, if Jesus is called God, then all those that saw Him were "pure in heart" - My current theology is: - Jesus is not called God - No one in and of themselves is pure in heart - Only through the blood of Jesus are we "declared" pure and therefore enabled to see God the Father - This verse especially builds the case that Jesus is NOT called God. - See the entry for Matthew 5 on the [[Know_the_Trinity_Study|Know the Trinity Bible Study]] for more thoughts on this verse - 2023.05.09 {9} - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons ([[G5207]]) of God ([[G2316]]). {9} - Jesus said the peacemakers will be called sons of God - At this time, I don't recall any verses explicitly saying that believers will be sons of Jesus. - See my notes on [[1_John_03|1 John 3.1-3]] below for my thoughts on believers being "children of God the Father" - I guess I need to study what it means to be a son of God and / or son of the Father. - So, unless there are specific verses explicitly saying we are sons of Jesus, then there is doubt. - Although I am confident "sons of God" exclusively refers to God the Father, I am going to code this one as "unsure" so I will come back to it again in the future. - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8} - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Daily Post --- - [[Matthew_09|Matthew 9]] - 2022.12.20 - Matthew recorded that Jesus referred to Himself as the "[[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)|Son of Man]]". So, [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {6} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.19]] {1-8} --- - [[Matthew_11|Matthew 11]] - Date - {27} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.13]] {25-30} --- - [[Matthew_14|Matthew 14]] - 2022.02.19 - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2022.02.19.0822]] {22-33} - Names - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status #Complete - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.16]] {22-33} --- - [[Matthew_16|Matthew 16]] - 2023.02.11 - See my comments below dated 2023.01.03 - If "God" in the "Kingdom of God" refers to Jesus, then He should be called God. However, the only way to arrive at that conclusion based on these verses is to use circular reasoning. - The Kingdom of God is Jesus' kingdom therefore Jesus is called God. - 2023.01.03 ^noj-40-16 - Based on the context, it seems obvious that the "Son of Man" in this verse refers to Jesus. {28} - In addition to giving us that name for Jesus, there is an interesting combination when compared to the two parallel passages, [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-41-01|Mark 9.1]] & [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] . Mark and Luke record that Jesus said "kingdom of God". So, it could be said that these three passages put together are examples of Jesus being called God. - NOJ - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {28} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.17]] {24-28} --- - [[Matthew_17|Matthew 17]] - 2022.12.27 - Although Matthew did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as"My beloved Son." Jesus is NOT called God {5} - NOJ - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {5} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {5} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.18]] {1-8} --- - [[Matthew_19|Matthew 19]] - 2023.01.23 {4-6} - In the context of Jesus' teachings about divorce, Jesus talked about "the Creator" and "God". It would seem weird if He was referring to Himself in this story. - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.23]] --- - [[Matthew_24|Matthew 24]] - 2021.05.15 {36} - It would seem that at this point in Jesus’ life, He was not omniscient. I don’t know if this was just during his 33-ish years on earth or if this statement has broader implications. - Regardless, this verse is outside the scope of this discussion - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.20]] - NOJ - [[Son]] {36} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {37, 39, 44} --- - [[Matthew_27|Matthew 27]] - Date - {40-43} --- - [[Matthew_28|Matthew 28]] - Date - {9 & 17} --- - [[Mark_01|Mark 1]] - 2023.01.23 - Mark said that Jesus "proclaimed the gospel of God". He quoted Jesus saying "the kingdom of God is near". If we are to call Jesus "God", then it would seem odd for both Mark and Jesus to talk about Jesus in the third person {14-15} - 2021.03.01 ^noj-41-01 - The demon knew Jesus is Holy, but did not confess Him to be God {24 & 34} - I'm not sure a demon's testimony should be taken as absolute truth. That notwithstanding, the demon referred to Jesus as "the Holy One of God". IF the demon was speaking truth, then why didn't he refer to Jesus as "God" instead of "the Holy One of God" - It would seem that Mark concurred with the demon’s view of who Jesus is {24 & 34} - NOJ - [[Jesus_Christ]] {1} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Lord]] {3} - [[Son_(NOJ)|beloved Son]] {11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {15} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Holy_One_of_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {24} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.21]] {21-28} - [[P_2023.01.24]] {1-3} - [[P_2023.01.25]] {9-11} - [[P_2023.01.26]] {14-15} --- - [[Mark_02|Mark 2]] - 2023.01.27 - After Jesus, the Son of Man healed the paralytic and forgave his sins, the people glorified "God" {5-12} - 2023.01.24 - In Jesus' story / parable, He implied His is the "bridegroom" {19-20} - 2021.03.11 {5-7} - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2021.03.11.0754]] - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {10} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {12} - [[Bridegroom]] {19-20} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {28} - [[Lord]] {28} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.27 ]] {1-12} - [[P_2023.01.28]] {18-20} - [[P_2023.01.30]] {23-28} --- - [[Mark_03|Mark 3]] - 2022.10.15 {33-35} - It seems odd that Jesus would constantly refer to Himself in third person. I think a better explanation of all the times Jesus refers to "God" is that He is not called God and rather Jesus is referring to His Father who is called God. - 2021.05.03 {11-12} - I don’t want to put a lot of weight on what unclean spirits say, however, they identified Jesus as the “Son of God”. {11} - Jesus didn’t correct or concur with their statement. However, He did warn them to not “make Him know” - It’s clear from other passages that Jesus is in fact the “Son of God”. This passage doesn’t make any statement for or against Him being God - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11-12} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {11-12} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {35} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.31]] {7-12} - [[P_2023.02.01]] {31-35} --- - [[Mark_04|Mark 4]] - 2023.01.29 {11, 26-29} - Since Jesus referred to the kingdom of God as a mystery, I suppose it is possible that the mystery is that He (Jesus) is God. However, I don't think that is the mystery. Albeit, I will admit that I don't fully understand the "mystery". Assuming the mystery is not that Jesus is God, then it seems reasonable to conclude that Jesus is NOT God. {11} - Jesus told a parable about the kingdom of God. If He is God, then He used strange language. {26-29} - Jesus told another parable about the kingdom of God. If He is God, then He used strange language. {30-32} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {30} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.02]] {10-12} - [[P_2023.02.03]] {26-29} - [[P_2023.02.04]] {30-32} --- - [[Mark_05|Mark 5]] - 2023.02.04 - The messengers from Jairus' house referred to Jesus as "the Teacher" {35} - 2023.01.30 - Jesus told the healed demoniac “Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and what mercy He has shown you.” {19} - Based on the prior context, it isn't clear if Jesus was referring to Himself as Lord or His Father. However, based on verse 20, it is clear the healed demoniac connected Lord with Jesus. - As stated below, this book was written by Mark years after the fact. So, I am going to assume all this stuff was vetted by then. So, Jesus gets the name "Lord" in this passage. {19} - 2021.11.02 {6-8} - Although a legion of demons is not a valid source of truth, this story was written by Mark - There are two instances in this passage, both in **verse 7**. Since they are in the same verse, I will only count it once. - They called Him "Son of the Most High God" {7} - They referred to Jesus separately from "God" {7} - NOJ - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Lord]] {19} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {35} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.06]] {1-10} - [[P_2023.02.07]] {11-20} - [[P_2023.02.08]] {21-35} - [[P_2023.02.09]] {36-43} --- - [[Mark_06|Mark 6]] - 2023.02.04 {2-3} - When Jesus went to His hometown, His homies rejected Him and referred to Him as: - this man {2} - the carpenter {3} - the son of Mary {3} - the brother of James, Joses, Judas and Simon {3} - NOJ - [[Carpenter_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Son_of_Mary_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Brother_of_James_Joses_Judas_and_Simon_(NOJ)]] {3} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.10]] --- - [[Mark_07|Mark 7]] - 2023.02.07 {8-13} - Four times in **verses 8-13**, Jesus refers to "God" as someone other than Himself. For the moment, I am only going to count one occurrence of Jesus not Called God {8-13} - One of the questions I have planned to discuss with corndawgjoe has to do with the 10-commandments and the rest of the Torah. I don't know if the Hebrew Roots people are required to obey all of the Torah or just the 10-commandments - In this passage, it would seem that Jesus is not only using the 10-Commandments to make His point, but He is also using a command issued by Moses (presumably from God) - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8-13} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.13]] {8-13} --- - [[Mark_08|Mark 8]] - 2023.02.11 - Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" {31} - Jesus referred to "God" as a separate entity when He (Jesus) rebuked Peter {33} - Again, Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" {38} - Jesus also mentioned "His Father" near the end of this chapter. It seems obvious from the context that Jesus and "His Father" are separate entities. However, there is no mention of the moniker "God" for either one of them in this verse. {38} - 2023.02.04 {29} - When Jesus asked His disciples who other people thought He was, they shared several responses. - When He asked them they they thought He was, Peter said, "You are the Christ" - Then Jesus warned them not to tell anyone - NOJ - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {29} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {31} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {38} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.11]] {27-30} - [[P_2023.02.14]] {31-33} --- - [[Mark_09|Mark 9]] - 2023.02.12 - John referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {38} - Jesus referred to Himself as "Christ" {41} - Jesus referred to the kingdom of God as something different than the "kingdom of Jesus" {47} - 2023.02.11 - The BSB has a strange phrase in **verse 41**. I checked other usual translations and I think the BSB is an outlier. Here's the various translations: {41} - gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah - NIV - because you belong to the Messiah - NLT - because you belong to Christ - ESV, CSB - because you bear the name of Christ - BSB, NET - because ye belong to Christ - KJB, CSB - because of your name as _followers_ of Christ - NASB - because you are of Christ - LSB - because you are Christ’s - WEB - because you are Christ’s - MSB - 2023.01.03 ^noj-41-09 - When comparing Mark 9.1, [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] and Matthew 16.28 , a case could be made that "Jesus is called God". See my comments at [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-40-16|Matthew 16.28]] for details {1} - However, my other thoughts at Matthew 16.28 dated 2023.02.11 discuss circular reasoning to arrive at that conclusion {1} - 2022.12.27 - Although Mark did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as"My beloved Son." Jesus is NOT called God {7} - NOJ - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {12} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {31} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {38} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {41} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {47} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.02.16]] {1-13} - [[P_2023.02.17]] {14-29} - [[P_2023.02.18]] {30-32} - [[P_2023.02.20]] {33-41} - [[P_2023.02.21]] {42-48} --- - [[Mark_10|Mark 10]] - 2023.02.14 - Verses 1-12 - Jesus talked about "God" twice in this section as if God were a separate entity in a similar manner in which Jesus talked about Moses. I doubt anyone would say that Jesus is Moses, so why would they say that Jesus is God? {6, 9} - Verses 13-16 - Twice in this section, Jesus talked about the "kingdom of God". If Jesus is "God", then why did He refer to His Kingdom in third person? I think a better literal exploitation is that Jesus is NOT called God. {14, 15} - Verses 17-31 - Again Jesus twice mentioned the kingdom of God. See my notes above {23, 25} - Jesus also said that all things are possible with God two different ways. I am counting these two occurrence separately from the two in verses 23 & 25 because these are different. {27} - Verses 32-34 - Even though Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" in third person, I don't recall Him referring to "God" in other places and the context clearly showing that Jesus is God. So, in this section I believe Jesus is saying the He is also called "Son of Man" and there is no evidence in this section that Jesus IS called God. {32-34} - Verses 35-45 - James and John referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {35} - Jesus referred to Himself in third person as the "Son of Man" {45} - Verses 46-52 - Mark referred to Jesus as "Jesus of Nazareth" {47} - Twice Bartimaeus called out to Jesus and referred to Him as "Son of David" {47-48} - Later in the story, Bartimaeus referred to Jesus as "Rabboni" {51} - 2021.06.01 {18} - Either this was an sideways way of telling the rich man that He is God, or Jesus was talking about Himself and God as separate entities - If Jesus has all the characteristics of God, which I do believe, and I believe that one of the characteristics is “goodness”, then maybe Jesus is in fact saying that He is God. - On the other hand, one of the characteristics of the fruit of the Spirit is “goodness” [[G0019]] / [[G0019b]]. That Greek word comes from [[G0018]] which is the “good” used in this verse. So, it would seem that via the [[Holy Spirit]], it is possible for a believer to be “good”. - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {6, 9} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14, 15} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {18} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {23, 24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {27-x2} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {45} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {47} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)]] {47, 48} - [[Rabboni_(NOJ)]] {51} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.02.22]] {1-12} - [[P_2023.02.23]] {13-16} - [[P_2023.02.24]] {17-31} - [[P_2023.02.25]] {32-34} - [[P_2023.02.27]] {35-45} - [[P_2023.02.28]] {46-52} --- - [[Mark_11|Mark 11]] - 2023.02.25 - In **verse 3**, it seems clear that "The Lord" is Jesus {3} - Peter refers to Jesus as "Rabbi" {21} - Jesus replies to Peter's comment by exhorting them to "Have faith in God". He then goes on to talk about answered prayer. It seems strange for Jesus to talk about Himself in third person. So, I think He is saying that He and "God" are separate entities. {22-24} - 2022.01.24 - Since the people credited Jesus with coming in the name of the Lord, who is the “Lord”? {9} - NOJ - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] {9} - [[Rabbi_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {22} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.01]] {1-11} - [[P_2023.03.02]] {20-25} --- - [[Mark_12|Mark 12]] - 2023.02.26 {13-17} - I wouldn't want to base my NOJ conclusions on the words of the Pharisees and Herodians. However, when they are validated by Jesus ... - The Pharisees and Herodians "commended" Jesus for teaching the way of God. The language implies Jesus and God are separate {14} - In Jesus' response, He said to "Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s." It sure seems that Jesus is implying the He and God are separate {17} - 2023.02.26 {18-27} - There are several instances in this section. I am going to count them as two separate examples - In Jesus' response to the Sadducees, He referred to the "power of God" as if it were something from an entity other than Himself {24} - Next, Jesus talked about the exchange between Moses and "God." In that exchange, Jesus quoted [[Exodus_03|Exodus 3.6]] which is a quote from "God". Then, Jesus wrapped it up by saying, "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living." It sure seems Jesus is communicating that He and God are separate. {26-27} - 2023.02.26 {28-34} - Jesus quotes parts of [[Deuteronomy_06|Deuteronomy 6.4-5]] in His response to the scribe's question. - In the first part Jesus says, "the Lord our God, the Lord is One." This phrase and others like it is the thing that causes all sorts of wild imaginative ideas on how it is possible for God to be "One" and at the same time "three". I contend, based on this study, that since Jesus is NOT called God and "God" is a reference to the Father, there is no problem with the fact that "God" IS "One" . {29} - Next, Jesus repeats the command to love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. Even if the previous phrase about oneness wasn't there, Jesus seems to refer to God as a separate entity in this command. {30} - Next in the story, the scribe speaks {32} - First, he refers to Jesus as "Teacher" - Then, he paraphrases the Great Commandment repeating the phrase "God is One". - The scribe seems to speak as if Jesus and God are separate entities - Additionally, since this was written by Mark many years after Jesus' death, it would seem that he would have added some sort of parenthetical comment that Jesus is God. - Finally, Mark concludes the story by quoted Jesus saying to the scribe. "You are not far from the kingdom of God." If Jesus were God, why would He refer to His kingdom in third person? {34} - 2023.02.26 {35-37} - Lots of names of Jesus in this section. Although Jesus is using the third person to talk about Himself, I see it as different than the other examples where I use the third person thing to "prove" that Jesus is NOT called God. In the others, the best literal interpretation is that Jesus and God are separate. However, in this section, it seems that Jesus is deliberately bringing up a confusing passage in [[Psalm_110|Psalm 110.1]] and applying it to Himself. - The names Jesus mentioned were: "Christ", "Son of David" and "Lord" - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {26-27} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {32} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {32} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {34} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {36-x2, 37} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.03.03]] {13-17} - [[P_2023.03.04]] {18-27} - [[P_2023.03.05]] {28-34} - [[P_2023.03.06]] {35-37} --- - [[Mark_13|Mark 13]] - 2023.02.28 - Verses 1-8 - One of Jesus' disciples called Him "teacher" {1} - Verses 14-23 - Context - Jesus is teaching His disciples about the end-times - Jesus referred to "God's creation". He seemed to imply "God" was a separate entity {19} - Next, Jesus talked about the "Lord ([[G2962]])". Jesus refers to the Lord as a separate entity in the first half of the verse. Then, in the second half of the verse Jesus continues to talk about the Lord, but via two third person singular verbs {20} - He has chosen ([[G1586]]) - He has cut them short ([[G2856]]) - Finally, Jesus wraps up this section by talking about false Christs. I don't think He would have been talking about "false" Christs unless He and the disciples thought of Jesus as "Christ" {21-23} - Verses 24-27 - Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man {26} - Jesus seems to be saying that the Son of Man (whom I just said in the line above is Jesus) will gather His elect. - At first, I was confused about to whom do the [[Elect]] ([[H1588]]) belong. {27} - Verse 20 says the "Lord" has chosen the elect. Then, verse 27 says the Son of Man will gather His elect - So, putting these together {20, 27} - The "Lord (God)" chose the elect - The elect that the Lord chose now belong to the "Son of Man (Jesus)"" - Verses 32-37 - Jesus refers to Himself as "the Son" {32} - NOJ - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {19} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {20} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {21-22} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {32} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.03.07]] {1-8} - [[P_2023.03.08]] {14-23} - [[P_2023.03.09]] {24-27} - [[P_2023.03.10]] {32-37} --- - [[Mark_14|Mark 14]] - 2023.03.11 {52} - Most people assume it was Mark who ran away [[Naked]] in **verse 52**. This assumption is based on: - It was typical to "sign" a creative work like that in the past; not the naked part, but a sideways reference. - A thought came to me as I was creating the "question" for my daily post. Mark's signature could be about Jesus. - Jesus was buried in a linen cloth - Jesus rose from the dead naked - 2023.03.10 - Verses 32-42 - Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man" {41} - Verses 43-52 - Judas referred to Jesus as "Rabbi" {45} - Verses 53-65 - The high priest referred to Jesus as: {61} - the Christ - the Son of the Blessed One - Jesus replied by referring to Himself as the "Son of Man" {62} - Verses 66-72 - The servant girl referred to Jesus as "Jesus the Nazarene" {67} - 2023.02.28 - Verses 12-16 - Jesus referred to Himself as "Teacher" {14} - Verses 17-26 - Jesus referred to Himself as the "son of man" {21} - Jesus referred to the "[[Kingdom]] of God" as if God were a separate entity {25} - Verses 27-31 - Jesus quoted [[Zechariah_13|Zechariah 13.7]] and applied the name "Shepherd" to Himself {27} - NOJ - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {25} - [[Shepherd_(NOJ)]] {27} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {41} - [[Rabbi_(NOJ)]] {45} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {61} - [[Son of the Blessed One (NOJ)]] {61} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {62} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]]{67} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.11]] {12-16} - [[P_2023.03.12]] {17-26} - [[P_2023.03.13]] {27-31} - [[P_2023.03.14]] {32-42} - [[P_2023.03.15]] {43-52} - [[P_2023.03.16]] {53-64} - [[P_2023.03.17]] {66-72} --- - [[Mark_15]] - 2023.03.16 - Pilate referred to Jesus as the "King of the Jews" and Jesus replied "You have said so" seemingly confirming the title / name {2} - Again, Pilate referred to Jesus as the "King of the Jews" {9 & 12} - The soldiers mocked Jesus and pretended to honor Him. In the process they referred to Him as the "King of the Jews" {18} - The charge posted on the cross said "THE KING OF THE JEWS" {26} - The chief priests and scribes mocked Him and refereed to Jesus as: {31-32} - the Christ {32} - the King of the Jews {32} - When Jesus was about to die, He cried out saying "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" It would seem that some entity was His "God". Based on the Bible as a whole, I assume Jesus is referring to His Father as "God". It would be strange for Him to say something like "Me, Me why have I forsaken Me." The easy answer: Jesus' Father is "God" and Jesus is not God. {33} - The centurion "guarding" the crucifixion declared that Jesus was the "Son of God" {39} - There are six occurrences of "King of the Jews" in this chapter. I wonder if Mark / God is trying to communicate something .... {0} - NOJ - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {2} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {9} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {12} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {18} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {26} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {26} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {39} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.18]] {1-5} - [[P_2023.03.19]] {6-11} - [[P_2023.03.20]] {12-15} - [[P_2023.03.21]] {16-20} - [[P_2023.03.22]] {21-32} --- - [[Mark_16]] - 2023.03.16 - The "young man / angel" referred to Jesus as "Jesus the Nazarene" {6} - According to Mark, after His ascension, Jesus sat down at the right hand of God. If Jesus is called God, then it seems strange for Jesus to sit at His own right hand. {19} - NOJ - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {19} - Daily Posts - --- - [[Luke_01|Luke 1]] - Date - {46-47} - 2021.12.02 - Gabriel, one of the seven angels that stand before God, said that Jesus would be “called ‘the Son of the Most High’” {32} - Gabriel, one of the seven angels that stand before God, said that Jesus would be “called ‘the Son of God’” {35} --- - [[Luke_02|Luke 2]] - Date - The angel said He is “Christ the Lord”. There is no mention of Him being called God [11] --- - [[Luke_06|Luke 6]] - 2021.05.15 - Although the context is Jesus appointing the 12 apostles, Luke matter-of-factly says that Jesus prayed to God. {12} - Luke refers to God as a separate entity than Jesus --- - [[Luke_08|Luke 8]] - 2023.02.23 {38-39} - Jesus told the man to “Return home and tell how much God has done for you.” - Jesus talked about God as if He were someone else - 2021.05.03 - This is the Luke account of the demonic as told in Mark 5 - See my note on Mark 3.11-12 {28} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {38-39} --- - [[Luke_09|Luke 9]] - 2023.03.29 - I missed this the first time around. In **verse 35**, not only did the voice from heaven (presumably God the Father) refer to Jesus as "My Son", He also said "whom I have chosen ([[G1586]])." Based on the language and the various other translations, it is possible Jesus was "chosen" from a pool of candidates. - whom I have chosen -- NIV, BSB, BLB - my Chosen One -- NLT, ESV, NASB, LSB, NET - my beloved Son - KJB, MSB, WEB - the Chosen One - CSB - Although I believe Jesus willingly did what He did for all of mankind, it was His Father who made the "choice" - 2023.03.20 - See my thoughts on the [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)| kingdom of God]] {2} - See my thoughts on the [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)| kingdom of God]] {11} - It appears Peter referred to Jesus as the "Christ of God". This is strange language if Peter thought Jesus should be called God {20} - See my thoughts on the [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)| kingdom of God]] {27} - Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" four times in this chapter. Since they are in separate sections, I'll count them four times. See my thoughts about His self-described moniker in [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.21.1955_Son_of_Man_and_NOJ]] {22, 26, 44, 58} - During the transfiguration, "a voice from the cloud", which I assume is God (the Father), referred to Jesus as "My Son" {35} - Peter referred to Jesus as "Master". Although I think this is better categorized as a "title" and not a name, I will create a topic and track the occurrences. {33} - The father of the boy with the evil spirit referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {38} - I guess it could be said that Luke intended to imply that Jesus should be called God based on his statement here {43} - John referred to Jesus as "Master" {49} - James & John referred to Jesus as "Lord" {54} - Jesus referred to Himself as "the Son of Man". {58} - A potential disciple referred to Jesus as "Lord" {59} - Although there are two occurrences of [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)| kingdom of God]] in the last section and I would normally only count them as one occurrence of Jesus not called God, they related to separate events. So, I will count them as two occurrences. {60, 62} - 2023.01.03 ^noj-42-09 - When comparing Mark 9.1, [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] and Matthew 16.28 , a case could be made that [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)|Jesus is called God]]. See my comments at [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-40-16|Matthew 16.28]] for details {1} - 2022.12.27 - Although Luke did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as "My beloved Son." I would think that somewhere, God the Father would refer to Jesus as God if that were accurate {35} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {2} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {22} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {27} - [[Master_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {38} - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] {43} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {44} - [[Master_(NOJ)]] {49} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {54} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {58} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {59} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {60} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {62} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.23]] {1-6} - N/A {7-9} - [[P_2023.03.24]] {10-17} - [[P_2023.03.25]] {18-22} - [[P_2023.03.26]] {23-27} - [[P_2023.03.27]] {28-36} - [[P_2023.03.28]] {37-42} - [[P_2023.03.29]] {43-45} - [[P_2023.03.30]] {46-50} - [[P_2023.03.31]] {51-56} - [[P_2023.04.01]] {57-62} --- - [[Luke_10|Luke 10]] - 2023.03.30 - When the 72 returned from their mission trip, they addressed Jesus as "Lord." {17} - In Jesus' prayer of Thanksgiving, He gave to His Father the title, "Lord of heaven and earth" {21} - Jesus referred to Himself as "the Son" three times in **verse 22** {22} - An expert in the law referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {25} - Even though the expert in the law mentioned "God" when he quoted / paraphrased the Shama / Great Commandment, Jesus didn't comment about who God is {27} - Luke referred to Jesus as the Lord as he introduced this story and again at the end. Then, Martha called Him Lord. Since it is two different people, I will count it twice. {39, 40, 41} - See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.28.2019_Lord_Note]] for more thoughts about Lord {17, 21, 39, 40, 41} - 2023.03.29 - Twice in this passage, Jesus mentions the "kingdom of God." See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)]] for more thoughts. Since these two occurrences seem to be somewhat related, but separate, I am counting them as two separate occurrences. {8, 11} - Although there are no names of Jesus in the second section, there does seem to be an example of Jesus and His Father both being in view at the same time. - 2023.03.28 - In light of the story, it seems reasonable that the first occurrence of "Lord" in this chapter refers to Jesus. In this case, it is Luke providing background info and calling the disciple sender, "the Lord ([[G2962]])" {1} - However, in **verse 2**, it is Jesus telling the disciples to pray to the "Lord ([[G2962]]) of the harvest" - I think it is reasonable to assume that Jesus is referring to His Father and calling Him the "Lord of the Harvest. However, in light of Jesus' use of third person when He refers to Himself as the Son of Man, it is possible He is commanding the disciples to pray to Him (Jesus) to send out workers, etc. See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.21.1955_Son_of_Man_and_NOJ]] for more thoughts on this. {2}" - Twice in this passage, Jesus mentions the "kingdom of God." See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)]] for more thoughts. Since these two occurrences seem to be somewhat related, but separate, I am counting them as two separate occurrences. {8, 11} - NOJ - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {22} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {25} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {39} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {40} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.02]] {1-12} - N/A {13-16} - [[P_2023.04.03]] {17-20} - [[P_2023.04.10]] {21-24} - [[P_2023.04.11]] {25-37} - [[P_2023.04.12]] {38-42} --- - [[Luke_11|Luke 11]] --- - [[Luke_12|Luke 12]] - Date - {6} --- - [[Luke_24|Luke 24]] - Date - {52} --- - [[John_01|John 1]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2022.02.27.0504]] - See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2022.02.27.0504|Heading: Questions About the Translation]] for a discussion about the questionable translation of **verse 18** {18} - Names - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_John_1_1-18__Summary]] {1-18} ^noj-43-01 - Names - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] - Comparison of "word" [[G4487]] in **Hebrews 1.3** with "word" [[G3056]] in **John 1.1** {1} - Nothing noteworthy - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/Dates_of_John's_Writings]] - See the [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/Dates_of_John's_Writings|Heading: tl;dr]] for a summary of my thoughts on when John wrote the seven books attributed to him. {0} --- - [[John_03|John 3]] - Date - John quoted Jesus in this paragraph. {16-18} - By Jesus’ own words, He referenced God as a separate entity from the Son (Jesus) --- - [[John_04|John 4]] - 2021.11.06 - Jesus referred to God separately from Himself {21-24} - Jesus said that God is “Spirit”. Clearly, Jesus himself is / was physical --- ### John 5 #### 2021.05.22 {18} - In **verse 18**, John said that the reason the Jews were bent on killing Jesus was because Jesus claimed God as His Father thus making Him equal with God. It seems clear that John is saying: {18} - Jesus is the Son of God - Jesus is equal with God - There is no mention of Jesus BEING God - In **verses 19-30**, it seems clear that Jesus is claiming that God the Father is His Father or said differently, Jesus is the Son of God the Father. {19-30} - No where in this section does John or Jesus claim that Jesus IS God --- - [[John_06|John 6]] - 2021.11.16 - Jesus clearly calls the Father God. {26-27} - However, there is nothing here that would preclude Jesus being God also. --- - [[John_07|John 7]] - 2021.05.22 - Jesus speaks as if He and God are separate entities {17} --- - [[John_08|John 8]] - Date - {24-28} - 2021.03.13 - On one hand, it seems clear that Jesus claimed for Himself the same name that God gave to Moses, I” AM” {58-59} - Compare with Exodus 3.14 - However, the context is temporal. Jesus said that before Abraham was born, “I am”. It is possible that Jesus isn’t claiming that He is God, but rather the temporal fact that He existed before Abraham was born. - This point of view is consistent with the omnitemporal viewpoint --- - [[John_09|John 9]] - Date - {35-38} --- - [[JOhn_10|John 10]] - 2023.03.30 {22-39} - I can't think of a section in the Bible that more clearly says that Jesus should NOT be called "God" than this one. - Jesus Himself lays it out plainly! - To start it off, when the Jews quizzed Him about being the Christ, Jesus responded with "I already told you" {24-25} - Further down the argument, Jesus says He is the "Son of God" {36} - 2022.10.04 {33-38} - Although I contend that I can't find anything in the Bible that says we should refer to Jesus as "God", I am not questioning His deity. - My interpretation of these passages is the best example I can find that expresses my view. - I do recognize that others choose to interpret these verses just the opposite. - What I find interesting is that they always start quoting extra Biblical sources for their arguments. As far as I am able, I am attempting to use nothing but scripture. - 2022.10.03 - In **verse 35**, Jesus quotes **Psalm 82.6** (See my thoughts above) about [[Psalm_082|Psalm 82.6]]: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908087]]) - I think Jesus is communicating that perhaps He is "God" just like each of us are "gods" - To restate the bullet above, in my current thinking: - Jesus is NOT God the Father - We (to include Jesus) are gods AND sons of the Most High (the Father) - Unlike the rest of creation, Jesus is the first born from the dead - Based on my current thinking, I am recording this passage as a "Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)" - 2021.11.17 - Clearly, Jesus claims that He and the Father are one {30} - The Jews correctly assumed that Jesus was claiming deity and even said, “You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.” {33} - However, in Jesus’ rebuttal, He said His title is “Son of God” {36} - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908669]] {33-38} - - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {22-39} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {24-25} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {36} --- - [[John_11|John 11]] - Date - Jesus talks about God as a separate entity. However, there is nothing in this verse to definitive say that Jesus is not God {4} - 2021.05.30 - Martha said that Jesus is the “Son of God” and Jesus did not correct Martha’s statement to add that He is also “God”. For now, I am going to put this one in the “NOT” column {27} - Another name for Jesus is "[[Christ_(NOJ)]]" --- - [[John_13|John 13]] - Date - {3} --- - [[John_14|John 14]] - Date - Jesus connects “God” and His “Father” together but seems to refer to Himself as a separate entity {1-4} --- - [[John_20|John 20]] - Date - Although John quoted Thomas as including “Lord” and “God” in the same phrase when referring to Jesus {28} - Thomas does not say that Jesus IS God - Thomas refers to Jesus as “my God” - I think people are using eisegesis when they use this passage to support their opinion that Jesus is God --- - [[Acts_02|Acts 2]] - 2022.12.02 - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Multiple references with Jesus and God mentioned separately {22-24, 33, 36} - [[Lord]] {36} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {36} --- - [[Acts_03|Acts 3]] - 2021.05.22 {13-15} - Peter speaks as if Jesus and God are different entities twice in this paragraph - NOJ – servant, Holy and Righteous One, Author of Life --- - [[Acts_05|Acts 5]] - 2023.02.24 {30-31} - In two successive verses, [[Peter_(Bible_Character)|Peter]] talks about "[[God]]" and "[[Jesus]]" as separate entities - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {30 & 31} --- - [[Acts_07|Acts 7]] - 2022.04.21 {54-56} - Based on the context, it seems likely that Stephen was referring to Jesus when he said the Son of Man was standing at the right hand of God - Twice in this paragraph (assuming the comment above is true) Luke speaks of Jesus / Son of Man as separate entity from God - Since each of the two occurrences are in different verses, I will count each one separately - NOJ - Son of Man - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Acts_10|Acts 10]] - Date - Peter referred to God and Jesus as separate entities {39-43} - NOJ - the One - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Acts_20|Acts 20]] - {21} - {24} - 2023.02.24 {28} - The BSB translated the second sentence as: Be shepherds of the church of God,{g} which He purchased with His own blood.{h} - Note {g}: Tischendorf _of the Lord_ ; BYZ and GOC of the Lord and God - Note {h}: Or with the blood of His own Son - Other translations - Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. -- NIV - Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as leaders. -- NLT - to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood -- ESV - to shepherd the church of God, which He purchased with the own blood -- BLB - to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood -- KJB - to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood -- NASB, LSB, CSB - to feed the Assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood -- LSV - to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son -- NET - to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and God which he purchased with his own blood -- WEB - On one hand, this verse is a little confusing. However, taken in context, especially verses 21 & 24, it seems clear that Jesus and God are separate entities - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {28} --- - [[Romans_01|Romans 1]] - 2023.02.08 ^noj-45-01-02-08 - Paul seems to treat “God” and “Jesus Christ” as two separate entities {8} - Paul seems to treat “God” and “His Son” (I assume is Jesus) as two separate entities {9} - 2023.02.06 ^noj-45-01-02-06 - There are several pronouns in this section that need to be understood to comprehend the Jesus / God question: {1-7} - He = God the Father {2} - His = God the Father {2} - His = God the Father {3} - His = Jesus {4} - Him = Jesus {5} - His = Jesus {5} - There are lots of names of Jesus in this section. See the NOJ section below for the list. In the sentences / phases where "God" and Jesus are both in view, I have recorded that Jesus is not called God. {1-7} - 2022.02.20 {7} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities - NOJ - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Son]] {3} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)|Descendant_of_David]] {3} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {4} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Lord]] {7} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]], [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {9} --- - [[Romans_03|Romans 3]] - Date - Need to study this passage {29-30} --- - [[Romans_05|Romans 5]] - Date - Twice in these verses, Paul treats “God” and “Jesus” as two separate entities {9-11} - NOJ – His Son --- - [[Romans_06|Romans 6]] - Date - Paul refers to God and Jesus as two separate entities {11} --- - [[Romans_08|Romans 8]] - Date - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - 2021.06.28 - Paul seems to treat “God” and “Jesus” as two separate entities {1-4} - NOJ - Christ - Jesus - His own Son --- - [[Romans_09|Romans 9]] - 2022.03.04 {1-5} - Upon further study, it seems there are some questions about this passage: - The Greek is odd - There are variations in the translation - Paul is not teaching about Jesus’ name - However, it does seem that Paul is saying that Jesus is deity - I think the phrase “God over all” refers to Jesus having all authority - Since Jesus is deity and has all authority, He is worthy of praise - I think it is a tough sell to say this passage teaches that Jesus bears the moniker “God” - But since there is some doubt, I’ll put it in the “??” column - 2021.08.27 {1-5} - Paul makes a clear statement that Jesus is “God over all” - I need to study this passage some more --- - [[1_Corinthians_01|1 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {3} --- - [[1_Corinthians_02|1 Corinthians 2]] - 2022.02.25 - Not sure about this one. Usually, “Lord” refers to Jesus [16] - Just like I struggled with verse 15 for years, I guess I will struggle with verse 16 for a while. {15-16} - 2022.10.07 - Does Lord refer to the Father or to Jesus? --- - [[1_Corinthians_08|1 Corinthians 8]] - 2022.10.07 {4-6} - This seems to be the clearest teaching I have found in the Bible that God refers to the Father and at least in this case, Lord refers to Jesus. - Paul also makes it clear that God the Father is "one" and then there is the Lord Jesus Christ - Paul even mentions other "so called gods" as Jesus did in **John 10**. See my note [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908669]] - 2021.07.12 {4-6} - It seems clear from the context that Paul is equating “God” with the Father and “Jesus” with “Lord” - Paul seems to be saying that “God” and “Lord” are two different entities --- - [[1_Corinthians_12|1 Corinthians 12]] - 2022.12.03 - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - **Verses 4-6** are talking about spiritual gifts and how even though there are different gifts, there is only one Spirit ([[G4151]]) / Lord ([[G2962]]) / God ([[G2316]]) {4-6} - It isn't clear from the context. However, based on my previous study, I am willing to assume that "Lord" refers to Jesus and "God" refers to the Father. - But, since it isn't clear, I will classify this one as "unsure" - 2021.07.12 - This passage is talking about the “Spirit”. It is only listed here because it was included on a website about God being “one” {12-13} --- - [[1_Corinthians_15|1 Corinthians 15]] - Date {9} - The immediate context is about Paul’s qualifications as an apostle. The broader context is about the resurrection of Jesus and everyone else - When Paul mentioned that he persecuted the church, he refers to it as “the church of God.” - Since the church is Jesus’ body / bride then it could be said that the church is His. If that assumption is correct, then when Paul said that he persecuted the “church of God”, he could be saying that Jesus is God - However, if Paul was trying to make a theological point, he went about it sideways - It is possible that he assumes that everyone else assumes that Jesus is God - Or, it could have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus being God --- - [[2_Corinthians_01|2 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {2} --- - [[2_Corinthians_01|2 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 {3-5} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation - I counted this occurrence as a separate one from verse 2 because they were in separate sections --- - [[2_Corinthians_02|2 Corinthians 2]] - 2022.11.28 - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Thoughts - Three good examples - Paul is giving thanks to "God" for leading them (and us) as captives in Christ {14} - Paul claims that he and his team are like a sweet perfume of Christ to God {15} - Assuming "Christ" is Jesus, then the aroma of Jesus is different than God - Paul wrapped up this section with another example; Paul claimed that "in Christ" they spoke before God {17} --- - [[2_Corinthians_04|2 Corinthians 4]] - Date - {4-6} --- - [[2_Corinthians_05|2 Corinthians 5]] - 2022.03.10 - Although there are 4 unique statements about the difference between “God” and “Christ” in these verses, I only counted it as one instance because all of them are in the same section {18-21} --- - [[2_Corinthians_13|2 Corinthians 13]] - 2021.11.18 {2-4} - Paul said that He and Jesus live by God’s power. {4} - It would be strange language if Paul believed that Jesus is God --- - [[Galatians_01|Galatians 1]] - 2022.02.20 {1-5} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation - I counted this as three, because reading the section as a whole, Paul seems to be clearly communicating that “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” are separate - To further emphasize this point, Paul says that Jesus gave Himself … according to the will of our “God and Father” - 2022.02.20 {15-17} - Paul said that “God” called him (Paul) to reveal His (God’s) Son in him (Paul) so he (Paul) could preach Him (see note below) to the gentiles - Note about the last “Him” in my note above: Based on just the sentence, it isn’t clear if Paul is talking about God or His Son. However, based on the whole book, I am assuming Paul is referring to Jesus in this last “Him” --- - [[Galatians_03|Galatians 3]] - Date - Need to study this passage {19-20} --- - [[Galatians_04|Galatians 4]] - 2022.03.15 {3-7} - There are two instances of Paul referring to God and Jesus as separate entities. However, since they are both in the same paragraph, I am only counting them as one. --- - [[Ephesians_01|Ephesians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {2} - 2022.02.20 {3-6} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in this second section of the letter to the Ephesians - I counted this occurrence as a separate one from verse 2 because they were in separate sections - NOJ – the Beloved One - 2022.02.20 {7-10} - Annotated verses - 7 In Him (Jesus) we have redemption through His (Jesus) blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His (God) grace 8 that He (God) lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. 9 And He (God) has made known to us the mystery of His (God) will according to His (God) good pleasure, which He purposed in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to bring all things in heaven and on earth together in Christ. - Thoughts - Because of all the He’s and Him’s it is possible I have misinterpreted this paragraph - Assuming I am correct, Paul refers to God and Jesus / Christ as separate entities - I think the first “Him” in verse seven refers back to “Beloved One” in **verse 6** - 2022.02.20 {11-12} - Annotated verses - 11 In Him (Jesus) we were also chosen as God’s own, having been predestined according to the plan of Him (God) who works out everything by the counsel of His (God) will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, would be for the praise of His (God) glory. - Thoughts - Because of all the He’s and Him’s it is possible I have misinterpreted this paragraph - Assuming I am correct, Paul refers to God and Jesus / Christ as separate entities - I think the first “Him” in verse seven refers back to “Christ” in **verse 10** - 2020.06.13 {13} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.0936]] - Names: - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - 2020.06.13 {22-23} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.0936]] - Names: - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Ephesians_03|Ephesians 3]] - Date - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7-11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {12} --- - [[Ephesians_04|Ephesians 4]] - Date {4-6} --- - [[Philippians_02|Philippians 2]] - Date {5-11} - This one really needs an entire note. I’ll record a few points now so I can remember my initial thoughts - It appears Paul is saying in **verses 6-7** that at one point in time, Jesus existed in the form of God, then at another point in time, Jesus was made in human likeness. (BTW, this isn’t contradictory to omnitemporality {omni-T}. Based on my understanding of omni-T, Jesus is omni-T as well as God. Any being that is omni-T is not limited by time and therefore it is possible for Jesus to be in the form of God and in the form of man with no limitations on when in “human” history such things occurred.) So, although Paul says Jesus existed in the form of God, that doesn’t make Him “God”. - Paul goes on to say in **verse 9** that “God” exalted Him (Jesus) to the highest place … It seems that Paul is implying that God and Jesus are separate entities - Finally, in **verse 11**, Paul says: - Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord - This confession will be to the glory of “God the Father - It seems that Paul is implying that Jesus is Lord and the Father is God --- - [[Philippians_03|Philippians 3]] - Date - {3, 21} --- - [[Colossians_01|Colossians 1]] - Date {15-16} - Consistent with what John said in [[John_01|John 1.18]] and [[1_John_04|1 John 4.12]], the person of the Trinity bearing the moniker “God” is invisible. - As John and Paul wrote elsewhere respectively, if we don’t believe that Jesus came in bodily form, then we are cursed. - So, since “God” is invisible, and Jesus IS/ WAS visible, how can Jesus bear the moniker “God”? - Date {19} - Date {21-22} --- - [[Colossians_03|Colossians 3]] - Date {16-17} - Two separate occurrences showing a difference between the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Lord]] - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] --- - [[1_Thessalonians_04|1 Thessalonians 4]] - 2021.05.15 {14} - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - 2021.05.15 {16} - Again, Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - ?????? To make matters more complicated, Paul seems to be treating “Christ” separately than “the Lord” ?????? --- - [[1_Thessalonians_05|1 Thessalonians 5]] - 2021.08.20 - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {9} - Date - This one is not clear. Could go either way {23} --- - [[2_Thessalonians_02|2 Thessalonians 2]] - 2021.07.05 - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {16-17} --- ### [[2_Timothy_01 1|1 Timothy 2]] 2024.10.19 {3} - Although I still agree with my other notes on this chapter, Paul does say something in verse 3 that seems confusing. He uses the phrase "God our Savior", but it is difficult from the context to determine to which member of the trinity he is referring. 2021.07.12 {5-6} - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - Furthermore, Paul makes it clear that there is one God before he separates God from Jesus --- - [[Titus_01|Titus 1]] - Date - Paul separated God and Jesus {1} --- - [[Titus_02|Titus 2]] - 2022.05.04 {12-13} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2022.05.04.1020]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Savior_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work --- - [[Hebrews_01|Hebrews 1]] - 2020.06.12 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.06.12.0945_NOJ]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] {3} - Comparison of "word" [[G4487]] in **Hebrews 1.3** with "word" [[G3056]] in [[John_01|John 1.1]] - Nothing noteworthy - 2020.06.06 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.06.1035]] - Names - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work --- - [[Hebrews_02|Hebrews 2]] - Date - The author writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {9-10} --- - [[Hebrews_03|Hebrews 3]] - Date - {1-6} --- - [[Hebrews_04|Hebrews 4]] - Date - {14} --- - [[Hebrews_05|Hebrews 5]] - Date - Although “God” called Christ His son, there isn’t enough here to make a firm decision {4-10} --- - [[Hebrews_13|Hebrews 13]] - 2022.03.04 {20-21} - The author clearly treats “God” as separate from “our Lord Jesus” - NOJ - "Shepherd of the Sheep" --- - [[James_02|James 2]] - 2022.03.04 {18-19} - There is some disagreement about the translation. Some say “God is one” and other say “there is one God” When I look at the Greek, it seems the better translation is “there is one God” - However, because it isn’t clear, I will leave the assessment as “??” - [[God_is_One]] --- - [[1_Peter_01|1 Peter 1]] - 2022.03.04 {1-2} - Peter says he is an apostle of Jesus … chosen by “God the Father” … sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus - Clearly, the trinity is in view in this passage. - Although Peter connects “the Father” with “God” he does not do so with the Spirit or Jesus - Date - Peter referred to God and Jesus as separate entities - 2022.03.07 {17-21} - Peter seems to connect “Father” with “God” and then treat “Jesus” and “Christ” as separate from “God” - NOJ - lamb --- - [[1_Peter_05|1 Peter 5]] - Date - {10} --- - [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1]] - 2022.12.27 - I think verses 1 & 2 taken in context are another clear example that Jesus should not be called "God" [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {1-2} - In retelling the story of the transfiguration, Peter said that Jesus "received honor and glory from God the Father" when the Father said "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". It seems that Peter thought of the "God the Father" and Jesus as separate entities. [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} - 2020.06.13 - Notes on verses 1 & 2 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.0842]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Savior_(NOJ)]] - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Complete --- - [[1_John_01|1 John 1]] - Date {5-7} - [[God_is_Light]] - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father and Jesus as God’s Son - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father --- - [[1_John_03|1 John 3]] - Date {21-24} - The [[Trinity]] is in view here, but there is no indication that they are "God" - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father - 2023.05.10 {1-2} - John connected the Father's [[Love]] of us with being called "children of God". So, it seems that in John's mind, God and the Father are synonymous. However, in the next verse he talks about "the Christ" appearing. So, it seems John is implying that the Christ and God are separate entities and therefore Jesus is NOT called God. - I am assuming that "the Christ" is Jesus {2} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {1-2} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {2} - Daily Posts --- - [[1_John_04|1 John 4]] - Date {9-10} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {11-14} - Although some would quote [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-43-01|John 1.1-18]] to prove that Jesus is “God”, I disagree with that interpretation. - Apparently, John also disagrees because in **verse 12**, he says that no one has ever seen God, but he says in **verse 14** that he saw Jesus, the Father’s Son. - Actually, John says the same thing in **John 1.18**, so I am not sure how anyone can believe that Jesus IS “God” as discussed in the NT. - Again, I am not denying Jesus’ divinity, just the “moniker” of “God” - Date {15-17} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate --- - [[1_John_05|1 John 5]] - Date {5} - John emphasized that the only overcomers are those who believe that Jesus is the “Son of God”. He does NOT say that we have to believe that Jesus is “God” - Date {9-10} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {11-12} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {18-20} - NOJ - One - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - It is unclear who the “He” is in the last sentence in **verse 20**. Based on the context, I believe “He” refers to the Father and not to Jesus. I need to do more research --- - [[Jude_01|Jude 1]] - 2022.03.04 - Jude refers to “God the Father” and Jesus as separate entities {1-2} --- - [[Revelation_01|Revelation 1]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020.05.27.0733]] {1-2} - Names : [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2020/2020.05.28.0949]] {6-8} - Names - [[Faithful_Witness_(NOJ)]] - [[First_Born_from_the_Dead_(NOJ)]] - [[Ruler_of_the_Kings_of_the_Earth_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - Date {9} - Although not as definitive as some of the others, John seems to treat God and Jesus as separate entities. - Date {17-18} - Based on the context, it would seem that Jesus is the speaker. In **verse 17**, He said he was the “First [[G4413]] and the Last [[G2078]]” - Earlier in **verse 8**, the Lord God said He is the “Alpha [[G0001]] and the Omega [[G5598]]” - Although it is possible that Jesus is claiming that He is God by using this cryptic similarity, I think it is better to go with the obvious interpretation, Alpha-Omega and First-Last are similar, but different. Therefore, God and Jesus are similar but different - NOJ - [[First_and_the_Last_(NOJ)]] - [[Living_One_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Revelation_02|Revelation 2]] - Date - {7, 8, 18, 27} --- - [[Revelation_03|Revelation 3]] - 2022.10.09 {1-6} - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1665340509]] - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status #Complete - Date {12} - Jesus refers to “His God” four times in this verse - Then, the last phrase, Jesus adds that He will write His (Jesus') new name. This seems to emphasize the difference between Jesus and God - Date {14} - Names - NOJ - faithful and true witness - the originator of God's creation - The word translated as “Originator” is better translated as “beginning”. The Helps word studies says that in addition to the temporal sense, it can also mean figuratively “preeminent” - By Jesus’ own words, He is saying that either He was there at the beginning of creation or He is preeminent in God’s creation. Either way, He refers to it as “God’s creation” and not “our” or some other word that would mean that Jesus is God. --- - [[Revelation_05|Revelation 5]] - 2022.03.17 {1-7} - Based on **Revelation 4**, the One seated on the throne in **verse 1** is God {1} - The “lamb” who is Jesus is standing on the throne {6} - John very strongly implies the Lamb is Jesus in **verse 5** {5-6, 9} - NOJ - [[Lion_of_the_tribe_of_Judah_(NOJ)|Lion of the tribe of Judah]] {5} - [[Root_of_David_(NOJ)|Root of David]] {5} - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {6} - 2022.03.17 {8-10} - The “lamb” is distinct from “God” in this passage - The lamb (Jesus) and God receive different praise - Arguably, there are two instances in this section, but I am only recording one since they are in the same section. - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - 2022.03.07 {11-13} - The Lamb (Jesus) and the One seating on the throne (God) are identified as separate entities (see **verse 10**) - This is counted separately from **verses 8-10** because it is in a different section - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Revelation_12|Revelation 12]] - 2022.10.09 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1665338461]] - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {10} - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Jesus]] {17} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} --- - [[Revelation_14|Revelation 14]] - 2022.05.09 {3-5} - John talked about God and the Lamb as two separate entities - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {4} - 2023.01.19 {12} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus]] - In this verse, John exhorted us to persevere in keeping the commandments of: - God - in faith in Jesus - It definitely seems that John treats "God" and Jesus as separate entities - NOJ - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {10} --- - [[Revelation_21|Revelation 21]] - 2023.01.19 {5-7} - Based on the whole book of Revelation, I'm pretty sure the one seated on the throne is God the Father - One thing that is interesting is that the speaker (I assume it is God the Father) claims two of the three monikers that Jesus does in [[Names_of_Jesus_Study#^noj-66-22|Revelation 22.12-13]]. - Alpha and the Omega - Beginning and the End - At this point, I don't see that it is a problem for both God the Father and Jesus to claim the same monikers. I think they could be interpreted as adjectives instead of nouns - 2022.10.08 {5-7} - Jesus / the Father said "The one who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son." There is similar language used several places talking about the relationship between the Father and Jesus. So, IF (and I need to find those references) my memory is correct, then if those other passages and this one corroborate my view that God and His Son Jesus are separate entities. Otherwise, then all the overcomers (hopefully including me) will be "GOD", which I believe is wrong - 2022.03.04 {5-7} - Although “the One seated on the throne” has consistently been identified as “God”, there is a possibility it could be Jesus - Both Jesus and “the One seated on the throne” are NOT both in view in this paragraph so this is an “NA” entry - It is included here because some people have connected “Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End” in this book. - As of this date, I have not done an exhaustive study of those two names. There is a possibility I could revise this note in the future. - [[Not_Applicable_(NOJ)]] --- ### Revelation 22 #### 2023.01.17 {1, 3} - John talked about God and the Lamb as two separate entities - "the throne of God" (x2) - "and of the Lamb" (x2) - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] (x2) #### 2023.01.17 {12-13} - Since the subject of this paragraph says He is coming soon, it seems reasonable to assume that it is Jesus - Assuming that is true, then in **verse 13**, Jesus claims the monikers of: - [[Alpha_and_Omega]] - [[First_and_the_Last_(NOJ)]] - [[Beginning_and_the_End]] --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - [[Deuteronomy_06|Deuteronomy 6.4]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2021.07.12.1105]] - Names - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - [[P_2023.01.05]] --- - [[Psalm_045|Psalm 45]] - Date - {6-7} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.06]] --- - [[Psalm_082|Psalm 82.6]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908087]] - Names - [[Not_Applicable_(NOJ)]] - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.07]] --- - [[Isaiah_09|Isaiah 9.6-7]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664813616]] - Names - [[Wonderful_Counselor_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Mighty_God_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Everlasting_Father_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Prince_of_Peace_(NOJ)]] {6} - Daily Post - [[P_2022.12.25]] --- - [[Isaiah_11|Isaiah 11.2]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_1664815121]] - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.09]] --- - [[Isaiah_53|Isaiah 53]] - Date: - Multiple verses / comments - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.10]] - [[P_2023.01.11]] - [[P_2023.01.12]] --- - [[Zechariah_14|Zechariah 14.9]] - Notes: {9} - Names: - SS Notes - I need to study this passage - I think this is talking about Jesus - All the major translations say “Lord”. The Hebrew is [[H3068]] --- - [[Matthew_09|Matthew 9]] - 2022.12.20 - Matthew recorded that Jesus referred to Himself as the "[[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)|Son of Man]]". So, [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {6} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.19]] {1-8} --- - [[Matthew_11|Matthew 11]] - Date - {27} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.13]] {25-30} --- - [[Matthew_14|Matthew 14]] - 2022.02.19 - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2022.02.19.0822]] {22-33} - Names - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status #Complete - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.16]] {22-33} --- - [[Matthew_16|Matthew 16]] - 2023.02.11 - See my comments below dated 2023.01.03 - If "God" in the "Kingdom of God" refers to Jesus, then He should be called God. However, the only way to arrive at that conclusion based on these verses is to use circular reasoning. - The Kingdom of God is Jesus' kingdom therefore Jesus is called God. - 2023.01.03 ^noj-40-16 - Based on the context, it seems obvious that the "Son of Man" in this verse refers to Jesus. {28} - In addition to giving us that name for Jesus, there is an interesting combination when compared to the two parallel passages, [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-41-01|Mark 9.1]] & [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] . Mark and Luke record that Jesus said "kingdom of God". So, it could be said that these three passages put together are examples of Jesus being called God. - NOJ - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {28} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.17]] {24-28} --- - [[Matthew_17|Matthew 17]] - 2022.12.27 - Although Matthew did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as"My beloved Son." Jesus is NOT called God {5} - NOJ - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {5} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {5} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.18]] {1-8} --- - [[Matthew_19|Matthew 19]] - 2023.01.23 {4-6} - In the context of Jesus' teachings about divorce, Jesus talked about "the Creator" and "God". It would seem weird if He was referring to Himself in this story. - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.23]] --- - [[Matthew_24|Matthew 24]] - 2021.05.15 {36} - It would seem that at this point in Jesus’ life, He was not omniscient. I don’t know if this was just during his 33-ish years on earth or if this statement has broader implications. - Regardless, this verse is outside the scope of this discussion - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.20]] - NOJ - [[Son]] {36} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {37, 39, 44} --- - [[Matthew_27|Matthew 27]] - Date - {40-43} --- - [[Matthew_28|Matthew 28]] - Date - {9 & 17} --- - [[Mark_01|Mark 1]] - 2023.01.23 - Mark said that Jesus "proclaimed the gospel of God". He quoted Jesus saying "the kingdom of God is near". If we are to call Jesus "God", then it would seem odd for both Mark and Jesus to talk about Jesus in the third person {14-15} - 2021.03.01 ^noj-41-01 - The demon knew Jesus is Holy, but did not confess Him to be God {24 & 34} - I'm not sure a demon's testimony should be taken as absolute truth. That notwithstanding, the demon referred to Jesus as "the Holy One of God". IF the demon was speaking truth, then why didn't he refer to Jesus as "God" instead of "the Holy One of God" - It would seem that Mark concurred with the demon’s view of who Jesus is {24 & 34} - NOJ - [[Jesus_Christ]] {1} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Lord]] {3} - [[Son_(NOJ)|beloved Son]] {11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {15} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Holy_One_of_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {24} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.21]] {21-28} - [[P_2023.01.24]] {1-3} - [[P_2023.01.25]] {9-11} - [[P_2023.01.26]] {14-15} --- - [[Mark_02|Mark 2]] - 2023.01.27 - After Jesus, the Son of Man healed the paralytic and forgave his sins, the people glorified "God" {5-12} - 2023.01.24 - In Jesus' story / parable, He implied His is the "bridegroom" {19-20} - 2021.03.11 {5-7} - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2021.03.11.0754]] - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {10} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {12} - [[Bridegroom]] {19-20} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {28} - [[Lord]] {28} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.27 ]] {1-12} - [[P_2023.01.28]] {18-20} - [[P_2023.01.30]] {23-28} --- - [[Mark_03|Mark 3]] - 2022.10.15 {33-35} - It seems odd that Jesus would constantly refer to Himself in third person. I think a better explanation of all the times Jesus refers to "God" is that He is not called God and rather Jesus is referring to His Father who is called God. - 2021.05.03 {11-12} - I don’t want to put a lot of weight on what unclean spirits say, however, they identified Jesus as the “Son of God”. {11} - Jesus didn’t correct or concur with their statement. However, He did warn them to not “make Him know” - It’s clear from other passages that Jesus is in fact the “Son of God”. This passage doesn’t make any statement for or against Him being God - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11-12} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {11-12} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {35} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.01.31]] {7-12} - [[P_2023.02.01]] {31-35} --- - [[Mark_04|Mark 4]] - 2023.01.29 {11, 26-29} - Since Jesus referred to the kingdom of God as a mystery, I suppose it is possible that the mystery is that He (Jesus) is God. However, I don't think that is the mystery. Albeit, I will admit that I don't fully understand the "mystery". Assuming the mystery is not that Jesus is God, then it seems reasonable to conclude that Jesus is NOT God. {11} - Jesus told a parable about the kingdom of God. If He is God, then He used strange language. {26-29} - Jesus told another parable about the kingdom of God. If He is God, then He used strange language. {30-32} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {30} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.02]] {10-12} - [[P_2023.02.03]] {26-29} - [[P_2023.02.04]] {30-32} --- - [[Mark_05|Mark 5]] - 2023.02.04 - The messengers from Jairus' house referred to Jesus as "the Teacher" {35} - 2023.01.30 - Jesus told the healed demoniac “Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and what mercy He has shown you.” {19} - Based on the prior context, it isn't clear if Jesus was referring to Himself as Lord or His Father. However, based on verse 20, it is clear the healed demoniac connected Lord with Jesus. - As stated below, this book was written by Mark years after the fact. So, I am going to assume all this stuff was vetted by then. So, Jesus gets the name "Lord" in this passage. {19} - 2021.11.02 {6-8} - Although a legion of demons is not a valid source of truth, this story was written by Mark - There are two instances in this passage, both in **verse 7**. Since they are in the same verse, I will only count it once. - They called Him "Son of the Most High God" {7} - They referred to Jesus separately from "God" {7} - NOJ - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Lord]] {19} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {35} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.06]] {1-10} - [[P_2023.02.07]] {11-20} - [[P_2023.02.08]] {21-35} - [[P_2023.02.09]] {36-43} --- - [[Mark_06|Mark 6]] - 2023.02.04 {2-3} - When Jesus went to His hometown, His homies rejected Him and referred to Him as: - this man {2} - the carpenter {3} - the son of Mary {3} - the brother of James, Joses, Judas and Simon {3} - NOJ - [[Carpenter_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Son_of_Mary_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Brother_of_James_Joses_Judas_and_Simon_(NOJ)]] {3} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.10]] --- - [[Mark_07|Mark 7]] - 2023.02.07 {8-13} - Four times in **verses 8-13**, Jesus refers to "God" as someone other than Himself. For the moment, I am only going to count one occurrence of Jesus not Called God {8-13} - One of the questions I have planned to discuss with corndawgjoe has to do with the 10-commandments and the rest of the Torah. I don't know if the Hebrew Roots people are required to obey all of the Torah or just the 10-commandments - In this passage, it would seem that Jesus is not only using the 10-Commandments to make His point, but He is also using a command issued by Moses (presumably from God) - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8-13} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.13]] {8-13} --- - [[Mark_08|Mark 8]] - 2023.02.11 - Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" {31} - Jesus referred to "God" as a separate entity when He (Jesus) rebuked Peter {33} - Again, Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" {38} - Jesus also mentioned "His Father" near the end of this chapter. It seems obvious from the context that Jesus and "His Father" are separate entities. However, there is no mention of the moniker "God" for either one of them in this verse. {38} - 2023.02.04 {29} - When Jesus asked His disciples who other people thought He was, they shared several responses. - When He asked them they they thought He was, Peter said, "You are the Christ" - Then Jesus warned them not to tell anyone - NOJ - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {29} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {31} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {38} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.02.11]] {27-30} - [[P_2023.02.14]] {31-33} --- - [[Mark_09|Mark 9]] - 2023.02.12 - John referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {38} - Jesus referred to Himself as "Christ" {41} - Jesus referred to the kingdom of God as something different than the "kingdom of Jesus" {47} - 2023.02.11 - The BSB has a strange phrase in **verse 41**. I checked other usual translations and I think the BSB is an outlier. Here's the various translations: {41} - gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah - NIV - because you belong to the Messiah - NLT - because you belong to Christ - ESV, CSB - because you bear the name of Christ - BSB, NET - because ye belong to Christ - KJB, CSB - because of your name as _followers_ of Christ - NASB - because you are of Christ - LSB - because you are Christ’s - WEB - because you are Christ’s - MSB - 2023.01.03 ^noj-41-09 - When comparing Mark 9.1, [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] and Matthew 16.28 , a case could be made that "Jesus is called God". See my comments at [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-40-16|Matthew 16.28]] for details {1} - However, my other thoughts at Matthew 16.28 dated 2023.02.11 discuss circular reasoning to arrive at that conclusion {1} - 2022.12.27 - Although Mark did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as"My beloved Son." Jesus is NOT called God {7} - NOJ - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {12} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {31} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {38} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {41} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {47} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.02.16]] {1-13} - [[P_2023.02.17]] {14-29} - [[P_2023.02.18]] {30-32} - [[P_2023.02.20]] {33-41} - [[P_2023.02.21]] {42-48} --- - [[Mark_10|Mark 10]] - 2023.02.14 - Verses 1-12 - Jesus talked about "God" twice in this section as if God were a separate entity in a similar manner in which Jesus talked about Moses. I doubt anyone would say that Jesus is Moses, so why would they say that Jesus is God? {6, 9} - Verses 13-16 - Twice in this section, Jesus talked about the "kingdom of God". If Jesus is "God", then why did He refer to His Kingdom in third person? I think a better literal exploitation is that Jesus is NOT called God. {14, 15} - Verses 17-31 - Again Jesus twice mentioned the kingdom of God. See my notes above {23, 25} - Jesus also said that all things are possible with God two different ways. I am counting these two occurrence separately from the two in verses 23 & 25 because these are different. {27} - Verses 32-34 - Even though Jesus referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" in third person, I don't recall Him referring to "God" in other places and the context clearly showing that Jesus is God. So, in this section I believe Jesus is saying the He is also called "Son of Man" and there is no evidence in this section that Jesus IS called God. {32-34} - Verses 35-45 - James and John referred to Jesus as "Teacher" {35} - Jesus referred to Himself in third person as the "Son of Man" {45} - Verses 46-52 - Mark referred to Jesus as "Jesus of Nazareth" {47} - Twice Bartimaeus called out to Jesus and referred to Him as "Son of David" {47-48} - Later in the story, Bartimaeus referred to Jesus as "Rabboni" {51} - 2021.06.01 {18} - Either this was an sideways way of telling the rich man that He is God, or Jesus was talking about Himself and God as separate entities - If Jesus has all the characteristics of God, which I do believe, and I believe that one of the characteristics is “goodness”, then maybe Jesus is in fact saying that He is God. - On the other hand, one of the characteristics of the fruit of the Spirit is “goodness” [[G0019]] / [[G0019b]]. That Greek word comes from [[G0018]] which is the “good” used in this verse. So, it would seem that via the [[Holy Spirit]], it is possible for a believer to be “good”. - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {6, 9} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14, 15} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {18} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {23, 24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {27-x2} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {45} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {47} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)]] {47, 48} - [[Rabboni_(NOJ)]] {51} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.02.22]] {1-12} - [[P_2023.02.23]] {13-16} - [[P_2023.02.24]] {17-31} - [[P_2023.02.25]] {32-34} - [[P_2023.02.27]] {35-45} - [[P_2023.02.28]] {46-52} --- - [[Mark_11|Mark 11]] - 2023.02.25 - In **verse 3**, it seems clear that "The Lord" is Jesus {3} - Peter refers to Jesus as "Rabbi" {21} - Jesus replies to Peter's comment by exhorting them to "Have faith in God". He then goes on to talk about answered prayer. It seems strange for Jesus to talk about Himself in third person. So, I think He is saying that He and "God" are separate entities. {22-24} - 2022.01.24 - Since the people credited Jesus with coming in the name of the Lord, who is the “Lord”? {9} - NOJ - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] {9} - [[Rabbi_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {22} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.01]] {1-11} - [[P_2023.03.02]] {20-25} --- - [[Mark_12|Mark 12]] - 2023.02.26 {13-17} - I wouldn't want to base my NOJ conclusions on the words of the Pharisees and Herodians. However, when they are validated by Jesus ... - The Pharisees and Herodians "commended" Jesus for teaching the way of God. The language implies Jesus and God are separate {14} - In Jesus' response, He said to "Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s." It sure seems that Jesus is implying the He and God are separate {17} - 2023.02.26 {18-27} - There are several instances in this section. I am going to count them as two separate examples - In Jesus' response to the Sadducees, He referred to the "power of God" as if it were something from an entity other than Himself {24} - Next, Jesus talked about the exchange between Moses and "God." In that exchange, Jesus quoted [[Exodus_03|Exodus 3.6]] which is a quote from "God". Then, Jesus wrapped it up by saying, "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living." It sure seems Jesus is communicating that He and God are separate. {26-27} - 2023.02.26 {28-34} - Jesus quotes parts of [[Deuteronomy_06|Deuteronomy 6.4-5]] in His response to the scribe's question. - In the first part Jesus says, "the Lord our God, the Lord is One." This phrase and others like it is the thing that causes all sorts of wild imaginative ideas on how it is possible for God to be "One" and at the same time "three". I contend, based on this study, that since Jesus is NOT called God and "God" is a reference to the Father, there is no problem with the fact that "God" IS "One" . {29} - Next, Jesus repeats the command to love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. Even if the previous phrase about oneness wasn't there, Jesus seems to refer to God as a separate entity in this command. {30} - Next in the story, the scribe speaks {32} - First, he refers to Jesus as "Teacher" - Then, he paraphrases the Great Commandment repeating the phrase "God is One". - The scribe seems to speak as if Jesus and God are separate entities - Additionally, since this was written by Mark many years after Jesus' death, it would seem that he would have added some sort of parenthetical comment that Jesus is God. - Finally, Mark concludes the story by quoted Jesus saying to the scribe. "You are not far from the kingdom of God." If Jesus were God, why would He refer to His kingdom in third person? {34} - 2023.02.26 {35-37} - Lots of names of Jesus in this section. Although Jesus is using the third person to talk about Himself, I see it as different than the other examples where I use the third person thing to "prove" that Jesus is NOT called God. In the others, the best literal interpretation is that Jesus and God are separate. However, in this section, it seems that Jesus is deliberately bringing up a confusing passage in [[Psalm_110|Psalm 110.1]] and applying it to Himself. - The names Jesus mentioned were: "Christ", "Son of David" and "Lord" - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {26-27} - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {32} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {32} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {34} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)]] {35} - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] {36-x2, 37} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.03.03]] {13-17} - [[P_2023.03.04]] {18-27} - [[P_2023.03.05]] {28-34} - [[P_2023.03.06]] {35-37} --- - [[Mark_13|Mark 13]] - 2023.02.28 - Verses 1-8 - One of Jesus' disciples called Him "teacher" {1} - Verses 14-23 - Context - Jesus is teaching His disciples about the end-times - Jesus referred to "God's creation". He seemed to imply "God" was a separate entity {19} - Next, Jesus talked about the "Lord ([[G2962]])". Jesus refers to the Lord as a separate entity in the first half of the verse. Then, in the second half of the verse Jesus continues to talk about the Lord, but via two third person singular verbs {20} - He has chosen ([[G1586]]) - He has cut them short ([[G2856]]) - Finally, Jesus wraps up this section by talking about false Christs. I don't think He would have been talking about "false" Christs unless He and the disciples thought of Jesus as "Christ" {21-23} - Verses 24-27 - Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man {26} - Jesus seems to be saying that the Son of Man (whom I just said in the line above is Jesus) will gather His elect. - At first, I was confused about to whom do the [[Elect]] ([[H1588]]) belong. {27} - Verse 20 says the "Lord" has chosen the elect. Then, verse 27 says the Son of Man will gather His elect - So, putting these together {20, 27} - The "Lord (God)" chose the elect - The elect that the Lord chose now belong to the "Son of Man (Jesus)"" - Verses 32-37 - Jesus refers to Himself as "the Son" {32} - NOJ - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {19} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {20} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {21-22} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] {32} - Daily Post - [[P_2023.03.07]] {1-8} - [[P_2023.03.08]] {14-23} - [[P_2023.03.09]] {24-27} - [[P_2023.03.10]] {32-37} --- - [[Mark_14|Mark 14]] - 2023.03.11 {52} - Most people assume it was Mark who ran away [[Naked]] in **verse 52**. This assumption is based on: - It was typical to "sign" a creative work like that in the past; not the naked part, but a sideways reference. - A thought came to me as I was creating the "question" for my daily post. Mark's signature could be about Jesus. - Jesus was buried in a linen cloth - Jesus rose from the dead naked - 2023.03.10 - Verses 32-42 - Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man" {41} - Verses 43-52 - Judas referred to Jesus as "Rabbi" {45} - Verses 53-65 - The high priest referred to Jesus as: {61} - the Christ - the Son of the Blessed One - Jesus replied by referring to Himself as the "Son of Man" {62} - Verses 66-72 - The servant girl referred to Jesus as "Jesus the Nazarene" {67} - 2023.02.28 - Verses 12-16 - Jesus referred to Himself as "Teacher" {14} - Verses 17-26 - Jesus referred to Himself as the "son of man" {21} - Jesus referred to the "[[Kingdom]] of God" as if God were a separate entity {25} - Verses 27-31 - Jesus quoted [[Zechariah_13|Zechariah 13.7]] and applied the name "Shepherd" to Himself {27} - NOJ - [[Teacher_(NOJ)]] {14} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {25} - [[Shepherd_(NOJ)]] {27} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {41} - [[Rabbi_(NOJ)]] {45} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {61} - [[Son of the Blessed One (NOJ)]] {61} - [[Son_of_Man_(NOJ)]] {62} - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]]{67} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.11]] {12-16} - [[P_2023.03.12]] {17-26} - [[P_2023.03.13]] {27-31} - [[P_2023.03.14]] {32-42} - [[P_2023.03.15]] {43-52} - [[P_2023.03.16]] {53-64} - [[P_2023.03.17]] {66-72} --- - [[Mark_15]] - 2023.03.16 - Pilate referred to Jesus as the "King of the Jews" and Jesus replied "You have said so" seemingly confirming the title / name {2} - Again, Pilate referred to Jesus as the "King of the Jews" {9 & 12} - The soldiers mocked Jesus and pretended to honor Him. In the process they referred to Him as the "King of the Jews" {18} - The charge posted on the cross said "THE KING OF THE JEWS" {26} - The chief priests and scribes mocked Him and refereed to Jesus as: {31-32} - the Christ {32} - the King of the Jews {32} - When Jesus was about to die, He cried out saying "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" It would seem that some entity was His "God". Based on the Bible as a whole, I assume Jesus is referring to His Father as "God". It would be strange for Him to say something like "Me, Me why have I forsaken Me." The easy answer: Jesus' Father is "God" and Jesus is not God. {33} - The centurion "guarding" the crucifixion declared that Jesus was the "Son of God" {39} - There are six occurrences of "King of the Jews" in this chapter. I wonder if Mark / God is trying to communicate something .... {0} - NOJ - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {2} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {9} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {12} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {18} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {26} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {26} - [[King_of_the_Jews (NOJ)]] {26} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {33} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {39} - Daily Posts - [[P_2023.03.18]] {1-5} - [[P_2023.03.19]] {6-11} - [[P_2023.03.20]] {12-15} - [[P_2023.03.21]] {16-20} - [[P_2023.03.22]] {21-32} --- - [[Mark_16]] - 2023.03.16 - The "young man / angel" referred to Jesus as "Jesus the Nazarene" {6} - According to Mark, after His ascension, Jesus sat down at the right hand of God. If Jesus is called God, then it seems strange for Jesus to sit at His own right hand. {19} - NOJ - [[Jesus_of_Nazareth_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {19} - Daily Posts - --- - [[Luke_01|Luke 1]] - Date - {46-47} - 2021.12.02 - Gabriel, one of the seven angels that stand before God, said that Jesus would be “called ‘the Son of the Most High’” {32} - Gabriel, one of the seven angels that stand before God, said that Jesus would be “called ‘the Son of God’” {35} --- - [[Luke_02|Luke 2]] - Date - The angel said He is “Christ the Lord”. There is no mention of Him being called God [11] --- - [[Luke_06|Luke 6]] - 2021.05.15 - Although the context is Jesus appointing the 12 apostles, Luke matter-of-factly says that Jesus prayed to God. {12} - Luke refers to God as a separate entity than Jesus --- - [[Luke_08|Luke 8]] - 2023.02.23 {38-39} - Jesus told the man to “Return home and tell how much God has done for you.” - Jesus talked about God as if He were someone else - 2021.05.03 - This is the Luke account of the demonic as told in Mark 5 - See my note on Mark 3.11-12 {28} - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {38-39} --- - [[Luke_09|Luke 9]] - 2023.01.03 ^noj-42-09 - When comparing Mark 9.1, [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-42-09|Luke 9.27]] and Matthew 16.28 , a case could be made that [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)|Jesus is called God]]. See my comments at [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-40-16|Matthew 16.28]] for details {1} - 2022.12.27 - Although Luke did not identify the voice from the cloud, Peter did in [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1.17]]. There, Peter said the voice was "God the Father." Assuming that is correct, then for whatever reason, God the Father chose to identify Jesus as"My beloved Son." [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {35} --- - [[Luke_12|Luke 12]] - Date - {6} --- - [[Luke_24|Luke 24]] - Date - {52} --- - [[John_01|John 1]] - Notes - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2022.02.27.0504]] - See [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2022.02.27.0504|Heading: Questions About the Translation]] for a discussion about the questionable translation of **verse 18** {18} - Names - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_John_1_1-18__Summary]] {1-18} ^noj-43-01 - Names - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] - Comparison of "word" [[G4487]] in **Hebrews 1.3** with "word" [[G3056]] in **John 1.1** {1} - Nothing noteworthy - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/Dates_of_John's_Writings]] - See the [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/Dates_of_John's_Writings|Heading: tl;dr]] for a summary of my thoughts on when John wrote the seven books attributed to him. {0} --- - [[John_03|John 3]] - Date - John quoted Jesus in this paragraph. {16-18} - By Jesus’ own words, He referenced God as a separate entity from the Son (Jesus) --- - [[John_04|John 4]] - 2021.11.06 - Jesus referred to God separately from Himself {21-24} - Jesus said that God is “Spirit”. Clearly, Jesus himself is / was physical --- - [[John_05|John 5]] - 2021.05.22 - In verse 18, John said that the reason the Jews were bent on killing Jesus was because Jesus claimed God as His Father thus making Him equal with God. It seems clear that John is saying: {18} - Jesus is the Son of God - Jesus is equal with God - There is no mention of Jesus BEING God - In verses 19-30, it seems clear that Jesus is claiming that God the Father is His Father or said differently, Jesus is the Son of God the Father. {19-30} - No where in this section does John or Jesus claim that Jesus IS God --- - [[John_06|John 6]] - 2021.11.16 - Jesus clearly calls the Father God. {26-27} - However, there is nothing here that would preclude Jesus being God also. --- - [[John_07|John 7]] - 2021.05.22 - Jesus speaks as if He and God are separate entities {17} --- - [[John_08|John 8]] - Date - {24-28} - 2021.03.13 - On one hand, it seems clear that Jesus claimed for Himself the same name that God gave to Moses, I” AM” {58-59} - Compare with Exodus 3.14 - However, the context is temporal. Jesus said that before Abraham was born, “I am”. It is possible that Jesus isn’t claiming that He is God, but rather the temporal fact that He existed before Abraham was born. - This point of view is consistent with the omnitemporal viewpoint --- - [[John_09|John 9]] - Date - {35-38} --- - [[JOhn_10|John 10]] - 2022.10.04 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908669]] {33-38} - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[John_11|John 11]] - Date - Jesus talks about God as a separate entity. However, there is nothing in this verse to definitive say that Jesus is not God {4} - 2021.05.30 - Martha said that Jesus is the “Son of God” and Jesus did not correct Martha’s statement to add that He is also “God”. For now, I am going to put this one in the “NOT” column {27} - Another name for Jesus is "[[Christ_(NOJ)]]" --- - [[John_13|John 13]] - Date - {3} --- - [[John_14|John 14]] - Date - Jesus connects “God” and His “Father” together but seems to refer to Himself as a separate entity {1-4} --- - [[John_20|John 20]] - Date - Although John quoted Thomas as including “Lord” and “God” in the same phrase when referring to Jesus {28} - Thomas does not say that Jesus IS God - Thomas refers to Jesus as “my God” - I think people are using eisegesis when they use this passage to support their opinion that Jesus is God --- - [[Acts_02|Acts 2]] - 2022.12.02 - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Multiple references with Jesus and God mentioned separately {22-24, 33, 36} - [[Lord]] {36} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {36} --- - [[Acts_03|Acts 3]] - 2021.05.22 {13-15} - Peter speaks as if Jesus and God are different entities twice in this paragraph - NOJ – servant, Holy and Righteous One, Author of Life --- - [[Acts_05|Acts 5]] - 2023.02.24 {30-31} - In two successive verses, [[Peter_(Bible_Character)|Peter]] talks about "[[God]]" and "[[Jesus]]" as separate entities - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {30 & 31} --- - [[Acts_07|Acts 7]] - 2022.04.21 {54-56} - Based on the context, it seems likely that Stephen was referring to Jesus when he said the Son of Man was standing at the right hand of God - Twice in this paragraph (assuming the comment above is true) Luke speaks of Jesus / Son of Man as separate entity from God - Since each of the two occurrences are in different verses, I will count each one separately - NOJ - Son of Man - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Acts_10|Acts 10]] - Date - Peter referred to God and Jesus as separate entities {39-43} - NOJ - the One - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Acts_20|Acts 20]] - {21} - {24} - 2023.02.24 {28} - The BSB translated the second sentence as: Be shepherds of the church of God,{g} which He purchased with His own blood.{h} - Note {g}: Tischendorf _of the Lord_ ; BYZ and GOC of the Lord and God - Note {h}: Or with the blood of His own Son - Other translations - Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. -- NIV - Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as leaders. -- NLT - to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood -- ESV - to shepherd the church of God, which He purchased with the own blood -- BLB - to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood -- KJB - to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood -- NASB, LSB, CSB - to feed the Assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood -- LSV - to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son -- NET - to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and God which he purchased with his own blood -- WEB - On one hand, this verse is a little confusing. However, taken in context, especially verses 21 & 24, it seems clear that Jesus and God are separate entities - NOJ - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {21} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {24} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {28} --- - [[Romans_01|Romans 1]] - 2023.02.08 ^noj-45-01-02-08 - Paul seems to treat “God” and “Jesus Christ” as two separate entities {8} - Paul seems to treat “God” and “His Son” (I assume is Jesus) as two separate entities {9} - 2023.02.06 ^noj-45-01-02-06 - There are several pronouns in this section that need to be understood to comprehend the Jesus / God question: {1-7} - He = God the Father {2} - His = God the Father {2} - His = God the Father {3} - His = Jesus {4} - Him = Jesus {5} - His = Jesus {5} - There are lots of names of Jesus in this section. See the NOJ section below for the list. In the sentences / phases where "God" and Jesus are both in view, I have recorded that Jesus is not called God. {1-7} - 2022.02.20 {7} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities - NOJ - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {1} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {3} - [[Son]] {3} - [[Son_of_David_(NOJ)|Descendant_of_David]] {3} - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] {4} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {6} - [[Lord]] {7} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7} - [[Christ_(NOJ)]], [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {8} - [[Son_(NOJ)]] [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {9} --- - [[Romans_03|Romans 3]] - Date - Need to study this passage {29-30} --- - [[Romans_05|Romans 5]] - Date - Twice in these verses, Paul treats “God” and “Jesus” as two separate entities {9-11} - NOJ – His Son --- - [[Romans_06|Romans 6]] - Date - Paul refers to God and Jesus as two separate entities {11} --- - [[Romans_08|Romans 8]] - Date - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {11} - 2021.06.28 - Paul seems to treat “God” and “Jesus” as two separate entities {1-4} - NOJ - Christ - Jesus - His own Son --- - [[Romans_09|Romans 9]] - 2022.03.04 {1-5} - Upon further study, it seems there are some questions about this passage: - The Greek is odd - There are variations in the translation - Paul is not teaching about Jesus’ name - However, it does seem that Paul is saying that Jesus is deity - I think the phrase “God over all” refers to Jesus having all authority - Since Jesus is deity and has all authority, He is worthy of praise - I think it is a tough sell to say this passage teaches that Jesus bears the moniker “God” - But since there is some doubt, I’ll put it in the “??” column - 2021.08.27 {1-5} - Paul makes a clear statement that Jesus is “God over all” - I need to study this passage some more --- - [[1_Corinthians_01|1 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {3} --- - [[1_Corinthians_02|1 Corinthians 2]] - 2022.02.25 - Not sure about this one. Usually, “Lord” refers to Jesus [16] - Just like I struggled with verse 15 for years, I guess I will struggle with verse 16 for a while. {15-16} - 2022.10.07 - Does Lord refer to the Father or to Jesus? --- - [[1_Corinthians_08|1 Corinthians 8]] - 2022.10.07 {4-6} - This seems to be the clearest teaching I have found in the Bible that God refers to the Father and at least in this case, Lord refers to Jesus. - Paul also makes it clear that God the Father is "one" and then there is the Lord Jesus Christ - Paul even mentions other "so called gods" as Jesus did in **John 10**. See my note [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664908669]] - 2021.07.12 {4-6} - It seems clear from the context that Paul is equating “God” with the Father and “Jesus” with “Lord” - Paul seems to be saying that “God” and “Lord” are two different entities --- - [[1_Corinthians_12|1 Corinthians 12]] - 2022.12.03 - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - **Verses 4-6** are talking about spiritual gifts and how even though there are different gifts, there is only one Spirit ([[G4151]]) / Lord ([[G2962]]) / God ([[G2316]]) {4-6} - It isn't clear from the context. However, based on my previous study, I am willing to assume that "Lord" refers to Jesus and "God" refers to the Father. - But, since it isn't clear, I will classify this one as "unsure" - 2021.07.12 - This passage is talking about the “Spirit”. It is only listed here because it was included on a website about God being “one” {12-13} --- - [[1_Corinthians_15|1 Corinthians 15]] - Date {9} - The immediate context is about Paul’s qualifications as an apostle. The broader context is about the resurrection of Jesus and everyone else - When Paul mentioned that he persecuted the church, he refers to it as “the church of God.” - Since the church is Jesus’ body / bride then it could be said that the church is His. If that assumption is correct, then when Paul said that he persecuted the “church of God”, he could be saying that Jesus is God - However, if Paul was trying to make a theological point, he went about it sideways - It is possible that he assumes that everyone else assumes that Jesus is God - Or, it could have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus being God --- - [[2_Corinthians_01|2 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {2} --- - [[2_Corinthians_01|2 Corinthians 1]] - 2022.02.20 {3-5} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation - I counted this occurrence as a separate one from verse 2 because they were in separate sections --- - [[2_Corinthians_02|2 Corinthians 2]] - 2022.11.28 - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Thoughts - Three good examples - Paul is giving thanks to "God" for leading them (and us) as captives in Christ {14} - Paul claims that he and his team are like a sweet perfume of Christ to God {15} - Assuming "Christ" is Jesus, then the aroma of Jesus is different than God - Paul wrapped up this section with another example; Paul claimed that "in Christ" they spoke before God {17} --- - [[2_Corinthians_04|2 Corinthians 4]] - Date - {4-6} --- - [[2_Corinthians_05|2 Corinthians 5]] - 2022.03.10 - Although there are 4 unique statements about the difference between “God” and “Christ” in these verses, I only counted it as one instance because all of them are in the same section {18-21} --- - [[2_Corinthians_13|2 Corinthians 13]] - 2021.11.18 {2-4} - Paul said that He and Jesus live by God’s power. {4} - It would be strange language if Paul believed that Jesus is God --- - [[Galatians_01|Galatians 1]] - 2022.02.20 {1-5} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation - I counted this as three, because reading the section as a whole, Paul seems to be clearly communicating that “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” are separate - To further emphasize this point, Paul says that Jesus gave Himself … according to the will of our “God and Father” - 2022.02.20 {15-17} - Paul said that “God” called him (Paul) to reveal His (God’s) Son in him (Paul) so he (Paul) could preach Him (see note below) to the gentiles - Note about the last “Him” in my note above: Based on just the sentence, it isn’t clear if Paul is talking about God or His Son. However, based on the whole book, I am assuming Paul is referring to Jesus in this last “Him” --- - [[Galatians_03|Galatians 3]] - Date - Need to study this passage {19-20} --- - [[Galatians_04|Galatians 4]] - 2022.03.15 {3-7} - There are two instances of Paul referring to God and Jesus as separate entities. However, since they are both in the same paragraph, I am only counting them as one. --- - [[Ephesians_01|Ephesians 1]] - 2022.02.20 - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in his salutation {2} - 2022.02.20 {3-6} - Paul seems to treat “God our Father” and “Lord Jesus Christ” as two separate entities in this second section of the letter to the Ephesians - I counted this occurrence as a separate one from verse 2 because they were in separate sections - NOJ – the Beloved One - 2022.02.20 {7-10} - Annotated verses - 7 In Him (Jesus) we have redemption through His (Jesus) blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His (God) grace 8 that He (God) lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. 9 And He (God) has made known to us the mystery of His (God) will according to His (God) good pleasure, which He purposed in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to bring all things in heaven and on earth together in Christ. - Thoughts - Because of all the He’s and Him’s it is possible I have misinterpreted this paragraph - Assuming I am correct, Paul refers to God and Jesus / Christ as separate entities - I think the first “Him” in verse seven refers back to “Beloved One” in **verse 6** - 2022.02.20 {11-12} - Annotated verses - 11 In Him (Jesus) we were also chosen as God’s own, having been predestined according to the plan of Him (God) who works out everything by the counsel of His (God) will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, would be for the praise of His (God) glory. - Thoughts - Because of all the He’s and Him’s it is possible I have misinterpreted this paragraph - Assuming I am correct, Paul refers to God and Jesus / Christ as separate entities - I think the first “Him” in verse seven refers back to “Christ” in **verse 10** - 2020.06.13 {13} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2020.06.13.0936]] - Names: - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - 2020.06.13 {22-23} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2020.06.13.0936]] - Names: - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Ephesians_03|Ephesians 3]] - Date - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {7-11} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {12} --- - [[Ephesians_04|Ephesians 4]] - Date {4-6} --- - [[Philippians_02|Philippians 2]] - Date {5-11} - This one really needs an entire note. I’ll record a few points now so I can remember my initial thoughts - It appears Paul is saying in **verses 6-7** that at one point in time, Jesus existed in the form of God, then at another point in time, Jesus was made in human likeness. (BTW, this isn’t contradictory to omnitemporality {omni-T}. Based on my understanding of omni-T, Jesus is omni-T as well as God. Any being that is omni-T is not limited by time and therefore it is possible for Jesus to be in the form of God and in the form of man with no limitations on when in “human” history such things occurred.) So, although Paul says Jesus existed in the form of God, that doesn’t make Him “God”. - Paul goes on to say in **verse 9** that “God” exalted Him (Jesus) to the highest place … It seems that Paul is implying that God and Jesus are separate entities - Finally, in **verse 11**, Paul says: - Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord - This confession will be to the glory of “God the Father - It seems that Paul is implying that Jesus is Lord and the Father is God --- - [[Philippians_03|Philippians 3]] - Date - {3, 21} --- - [[Colossians_01|Colossians 1]] - Date {15-16} - Consistent with what John said in [[John_01|John 1.18]] and [[1_John_04|1 John 4.12]], the person of the Trinity bearing the moniker “God” is invisible. - As John and Paul wrote elsewhere respectively, if we don’t believe that Jesus came in bodily form, then we are cursed. - So, since “God” is invisible, and Jesus IS/ WAS visible, how can Jesus bear the moniker “God”? - Date {19} - Date {21-22} --- - [[Colossians_03|Colossians 3]] - Date {16-17} - Two separate occurrences showing a difference between the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Lord]] - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] --- - [[1_Thessalonians_04|1 Thessalonians 4]] - 2021.05.15 {14} - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - 2021.05.15 {16} - Again, Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - ?????? To make matters more complicated, Paul seems to be treating “Christ” separately than “the Lord” ?????? --- - [[1_Thessalonians_05|1 Thessalonians 5]] - 2021.08.20 - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {9} - Date - This one is not clear. Could go either way {23} --- - [[2_Thessalonians_02|2 Thessalonians 2]] - 2021.07.05 - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {16-17} --- - [[2_Timothy_01 1|1 Timothy 2]] - 2021.07.12 {5-6} - Paul writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. - Furthermore, Paul makes it clear that there is one God before he separates God from Jesus --- - [[Titus_01|Titus 1]] - Date - Paul separated God and Jesus {1} --- - [[Titus_02|Titus 2]] - 2022.05.04 {12-13} - Notes: [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2022.05.04.1020]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Savior_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work --- - [[Hebrews_01|Hebrews 1]] - 2020.06.12 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.12.0945]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] {3} - Comparison of "word" [[G4487]] in **Hebrews 1.3** with "word" [[G3056]] in [[John_01|John 1.1]] - Nothing noteworthy - 2020.06.06 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2020.06.06.1035]] - Names - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Son_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Unsure_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work --- - [[Hebrews_02|Hebrews 2]] - Date - The author writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. {9-10} --- - [[Hebrews_03|Hebrews 3]] - Date - {1-6} --- - [[Hebrews_04|Hebrews 4]] - Date - {14} --- - [[Hebrews_05|Hebrews 5]] - Date - Although “God” called Christ His son, there isn’t enough here to make a firm decision {4-10} --- - [[Hebrews_13|Hebrews 13]] - 2022.03.04 {20-21} - The author clearly treats “God” as separate from “our Lord Jesus” - NOJ - "Shepherd of the Sheep" --- - [[James_02|James 2]] - 2022.03.04 {18-19} - There is some disagreement about the translation. Some say “God is one” and other say “there is one God” When I look at the Greek, it seems the better translation is “there is one God” - However, because it isn’t clear, I will leave the assessment as “??” - [[God_is_One]] --- - [[1_Peter_01|1 Peter 1]] - 2022.03.04 {1-2} - Peter says he is an apostle of Jesus … chosen by “God the Father” … sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus - Clearly, the trinity is in view in this passage. - Although Peter connects “the Father” with “God” he does not do so with the Spirit or Jesus - Date - Peter referred to God and Jesus as separate entities - 2022.03.07 {17-21} - Peter seems to connect “Father” with “God” and then treat “Jesus” and “Christ” as separate from “God” - NOJ - lamb --- - [[1_Peter_05|1 Peter 5]] - Date - {10} --- - [[2_Peter_01|2 Peter 1]] - 2022.12.27 - I think verses 1 & 2 taken in context are another clear example that Jesus should not be called "God" [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {1-2} - In retelling the story of the transfiguration, Peter said that Jesus "received honor and glory from God the Father" when the Father said "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". It seems that Peter thought of the "God the Father" and Jesus as separate entities. [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} - 2020.06.13 - Notes on verses 1 & 2 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2020.06.13.0842]] - Names: - [[Jesus_IS_Called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Savior_(NOJ)]] - [[Lord_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Complete --- - [[1_John_01|1 John 1]] - Date {5-7} - [[God_is_Light]] - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father and Jesus as God’s Son - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father --- - [[1_John_03|1 John 3]] - Date {21-24} - The [[Trinity]] is in view here, but there is no indication that they are "God" - John writes as if Jesus and God are two different entities. He seems to associate “God” with the Father --- - [[1_John_04|1 John 4]] - Date {9-10} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {11-14} - Although some would quote [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-43-01|John 1.1-18]] to prove that Jesus is “God”, I disagree with that interpretation. - Apparently, John also disagrees because in **verse 12**, he says that no one has ever seen God, but he says in **verse 14** that he saw Jesus, the Father’s Son. - Actually, John says the same thing in **John 1.18**, so I am not sure how anyone can believe that Jesus IS “God” as discussed in the NT. - Again, I am not denying Jesus’ divinity, just the “moniker” of “God” - Date {15-17} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate --- - [[1_John_05|1 John 5]] - Date {5} - John emphasized that the only overcomers are those who believe that Jesus is the “Son of God”. He does NOT say that we have to believe that Jesus is “God” - Date {9-10} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {11-12} - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - Date {18-20} - NOJ - One - John writes as if “God” and Jesus, His Son are separate - It is unclear who the “He” is in the last sentence in **verse 20**. Based on the context, I believe “He” refers to the Father and not to Jesus. I need to do more research --- - [[Jude_01|Jude 1]] - 2022.03.04 - Jude refers to “God the Father” and Jesus as separate entities {1-2} --- - [[Revelation_01|Revelation 1]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2020.05.27.0733]] {1-2} - Names : [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2020/2020.05.28.0949]] {6-8} - Names - [[Faithful_Witness_(NOJ)]] - [[First_Born_from_the_Dead_(NOJ)]] - [[Ruler_of_the_Kings_of_the_Earth_(NOJ)]] - Status: #Needs_Work - Date {9} - Although not as definitive as some of the others, John seems to treat God and Jesus as separate entities. - Date {17-18} - Based on the context, it would seem that Jesus is the speaker. In **verse 17**, He said he was the “First [[G4413]] and the Last [[G2078]]” - Earlier in **verse 8**, the Lord God said He is the “Alpha [[G0001]] and the Omega [[G5598]]” - Although it is possible that Jesus is claiming that He is God by using this cryptic similarity, I think it is better to go with the obvious interpretation, Alpha-Omega and First-Last are similar, but different. Therefore, God and Jesus are similar but different - NOJ - [[First_and_the_Last_(NOJ)]] - [[Living_One_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Revelation_02|Revelation 2]] - Date - {7, 8, 18, 27} --- - [[Revelation_03|Revelation 3]] - 2022.10.09 {1-6} - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_1665340509]] - Names - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - Status #Complete - Date {12} - Jesus refers to “His God” four times in this verse - Then, the last phrase, Jesus adds that He will write His (Jesus') new name. This seems to emphasize the difference between Jesus and God - Date {14} - Names - NOJ - faithful and true witness - the originator of God's creation - The word translated as “Originator” is better translated as “beginning”. The Helps word studies says that in addition to the temporal sense, it can also mean figuratively “preeminent” - By Jesus’ own words, He is saying that either He was there at the beginning of creation or He is preeminent in God’s creation. Either way, He refers to it as “God’s creation” and not “our” or some other word that would mean that Jesus is God. --- - [[Revelation_05|Revelation 5]] - 2022.03.17 {1-7} - Based on **Revelation 4**, the One seated on the throne in **verse 1** is God {1} - The “lamb” who is Jesus is standing on the throne {6} - John very strongly implies the Lamb is Jesus in **verse 5** {5-6, 9} - NOJ - [[Lion_of_the_tribe_of_Judah_(NOJ)|Lion of the tribe of Judah]] {5} - [[Root_of_David_(NOJ)|Root of David]] {5} - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {6} - 2022.03.17 {8-10} - The “lamb” is distinct from “God” in this passage - The lamb (Jesus) and God receive different praise - Arguably, there are two instances in this section, but I am only recording one since they are in the same section. - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - 2022.03.07 {11-13} - The Lamb (Jesus) and the One seating on the throne (God) are identified as separate entities (see **verse 10**) - This is counted separately from **verses 8-10** because it is in a different section - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] --- - [[Revelation_12|Revelation 12]] - 2022.10.09 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_1665338461]] - [[Christ_(NOJ)]] {10} - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {11} - [[Jesus]] {17} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {17} --- - [[Revelation_14|Revelation 14]] - 2022.05.09 {3-5} - John talked about God and the Lamb as two separate entities - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] {4} - 2023.01.19 {12} - [[Jesus_is_NOT_called_God_(NOJ)]] - [[Jesus]] - In this verse, John exhorted us to persevere in keeping the commandments of: - God - in faith in Jesus - It definitely seems that John treats "God" and Jesus as separate entities - NOJ - [[Lamb_(NOJ)]] {10} --- - [[Revelation_21|Revelation 21]] - 2023.01.19 {5-7} - Based on the whole book of Revelation, I'm pretty sure the one seated on the throne is God the Father - One thing that is interesting is that the speaker (I assume it is God the Father) claims two of the three monikers that Jesus does in [[Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study#^noj-66-22|Revelation 22.12-13]]. - Alpha and the Omega - Beginning and the End - At this point, I don't see that it is a problem for both God the Father and Jesus to claim the same monikers. I think they could be interpreted as adjectives instead of nouns - 2022.10.08 {5-7} - Jesus / the Father said "The one who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son." There is similar language used several places talking about the relationship between the Father and Jesus. So, IF (and I need to find those references) my memory is correct, then if those other passages and this one corroborate my view that God and His Son Jesus are separate entities. Otherwise, then all the overcomers (hopefully including me) will be "GOD", which I believe is wrong - 2022.03.04 {5-7} - Although “the One seated on the throne” has consistently been identified as “God”, there is a possibility it could be Jesus - Both Jesus and “the One seated on the throne” are NOT both in view in this paragraph so this is an “NA” entry - It is included here because some people have connected “Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End” in this book. - As of this date, I have not done an exhaustive study of those two names. There is a possibility I could revise this note in the future. - [[Not_Applicable_(NOJ)]] --- ## Other Notes - Some notes that got all this started - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2016.05.07.0909]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.12.0945]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_2020.06.13.0842]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/2020/2020.06.12.0836]] - An early attempt at the study: [- [y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_2020.06.13.1007_Early_Attempt]] - This is a summary of the various notes on John 1.18 - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/NOJ_John_1_1-18__Summary]] - Thoughts on why I changed everything to "Names_of_Jesus_Bible_Study": [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/NOJ_1664823660]] - [[Moniker_Definition_221008]] - A list of definitions of the word Moniker that I have used extensively in this study - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_NOTES/Dates_of_John's_Writings]] - A look at when John wrote each of the books in the Bible attributed to him Analysis Options - [[Name_of_Jesus_Topics]] - Notes on Jesus' various names - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.28.2019_Lord_Note]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.21.1955_Son_of_Man_and_NOJ]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2023/2023.03.20.1855_Kingdom_of_God_(NOJ)]] - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/2022.10.08.0823 - Moniker]] - A list of definitions of the word Moniker that I have used extensively in this study - [[y_STUFF_TO_PROCESS/NOTES_TO_PROCESS/MORE_DUPS/Dates_of_John's_Writings]] - A look at when John wrote each of the books in the Bible attributed to him - The [[S_Names_of_Jesus_Topics]] is quite long because Jesus had lots of "aka's or monikers." -